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  • MikM Mik

    @kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

    Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

    This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.

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    @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

    @kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

    Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

    This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.

    👍 No protests at Luke’s school. Course, it’s a small college, and 1/3 of the incoming students go through a leadership program (they actually have a leadership minor that Luke is completing). The first 2 weeks? Dale Carnegie…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

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      @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

      Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

      That was okay. Just Arab Ba’athists and their Russian nanny working together to kill other Arabs. No loss, quite a few of them just needed killing.

      Elbows up!

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        George K
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        Saw a video of chairs and other objects being thrown at police.

        Where have you gone, officer Byrd? A lonely nation turns its eyes to you.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

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          @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

          Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

          Exactly. Ask those protesters how many Palestinians have been killed in Syria?
          Ask them why they are not at the Egypt embassy protesting that Egypt is not opening the border?

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            Mostly Peaceful

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  He can’t unless there are federal funding sources he’s referring to. Still, while I support the sentiment I think that should be self evident to any educational institution. If we need presidential involvement we are in big trouble.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    I think we're in big trouble.

                    I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                      I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

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                      @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                      Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                      I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

                      Only with legislation. But that idea has been floated already by the GOP.

                      The civil rights division of the DoJ could cause the universities quite a bit of pain on this issue if they wanted to, which would fuel individual lawsuits as well.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        I think we're in big trouble.

                        I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

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                        @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                        I think we're in big trouble.

                        I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

                        We had one where I did undergrad, “Speakers’ Corner”.. It was an inside large area, an intersection of 4 hallways & the main entry to 4 buildings. Everything was protested: tuition, abortion, gays, women’s’ rights, wars, Trudeau #1, Quebec, guns, cannabis. Things were also celebrated: Hockey, last days of classes. When the crowds got too large, they simply had the fire department close it down for safety reasons. People exited to the outside to continue on an adjacent small hill, which also got closed down by campus security & the police on occasion.

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                          @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                          I think we're in big trouble.

                          I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

                          We had one where I did undergrad, “Speakers’ Corner”.. It was an inside large area, an intersection of 4 hallways & the main entry to 4 buildings. Everything was protested: tuition, abortion, gays, women’s’ rights, wars, Trudeau #1, Quebec, guns, cannabis. Things were also celebrated: Hockey, last days of classes. When the crowds got too large, they simply had the fire department close it down for safety reasons. People exited to the outside to continue on an adjacent small hill, which also got closed down by campus security & the police on occasion.

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                          @blondie said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                          Speakers’ Corner”.

                          I think there is something like that in London - but upon to the public. If I remember, there is platform people can stand on to talk about tings. When i watched them, it was usually pretty weird crazy people talking mostly nonsense. Interesting and a bit funny.

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                            Same with Columbia - just more of em.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

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                                @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                not students at all

                                Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                    not students at all

                                    Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

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                                    @George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                    @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                    not students at all

                                    Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

                                    She’s a Barnard student, IIRC, which is affiliated. Back in the olden days when Columbia only admitted men, it was the women’s college attached to it.

                                    Remember Bootsy from PW? Anyone who has been to a NY piano party knows him. He used to be a prof there.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Yeah, it's whataboutism, but...

                                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1783964668987609379.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        It’s also not about Columbia or any other institution in the news right now over the issue.

                                        It seems to be an example of outgroup homogeneity bias:

                                        Person A: I believe X
                                        Person B: I believe !X

                                        Person C You guys are hypocrites

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.

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