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What’s happening at Columbia?

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Was listening to NPR in the car. Some professor was decrying the various administrations’ actions, saying that this is just students expressing themselves and learning how to research and analyze ideas. So these demands to divest, etc are all about education 🙄

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Was listening to NPR in the car. Some professor was decrying the various administrations’ actions, saying that this is just students expressing themselves and learning how to research and analyze ideas. So these demands to divest, etc are all about education 🙄

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      @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

      learning how to research and analyze ideas

      "Research"

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Horace
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        A reasonable first approximation for why they're protesting, is some combination of status seeking and mate seeking. I would like to say there are ideological bases too, but I don't like to lie.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Primate group identification

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Primate group identification

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            @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

            Primate group identification

            "Apparently, you can put nose rings in sheep now."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              #68

              Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

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                Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  Has anyone at Columbia, or other schools, commented on the hostages?

                  Didn't think so.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    What do you think happens when a Columbia Alum send an application to Liebowitz, Goldstein, and Phipps next year?

                    The Brad

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                    • kluursK kluurs

                      Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

                      MikM Offline
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                      @kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                      Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

                      This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                        Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

                        This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.

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                        @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                        @kluurs said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                        Protest is fine - but no one seems to have heard of Ghandi. We had a group of hecklers disrupt the local village board meeting - shouting down everyone there as they wished the board to vote a resolution in support of (I don't care). Several people attending the meeting noted that the hecklers amazingly did nothing to endear themselves to the other citizenry and in fact, made them feel disinclined to support their cause.

                        This entire country needs to read Dale Carnegie.

                        👍 No protests at Luke’s school. Course, it’s a small college, and 1/3 of the incoming students go through a leadership program (they actually have a leadership minor that Luke is completing). The first 2 weeks? Dale Carnegie…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                          Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

                          That was okay. Just Arab Ba’athists and their Russian nanny working together to kill other Arabs. No loss, quite a few of them just needed killing.

                          Elbows up!

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                            Saw a video of chairs and other objects being thrown at police.

                            Where have you gone, officer Byrd? A lonely nation turns its eyes to you.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                              Great. Where’s the protest over Syria?

                              Exactly. Ask those protesters how many Palestinians have been killed in Syria?
                              Ask them why they are not at the Egypt embassy protesting that Egypt is not opening the border?

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                                Mostly Peaceful

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                                    I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      #80

                                      He can’t unless there are federal funding sources he’s referring to. Still, while I support the sentiment I think that should be self evident to any educational institution. If we need presidential involvement we are in big trouble.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        I think we're in big trouble.

                                        I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                                          I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                          Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

                                          I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

                                          Only with legislation. But that idea has been floated already by the GOP.

                                          The civil rights division of the DoJ could cause the universities quite a bit of pain on this issue if they wanted to, which would fuel individual lawsuits as well.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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