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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    I think we're in big trouble.

    I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

      I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

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      @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

      Trump had an interesting statement...To paraphrase: When elected president, I will make sure civil rights of all students are observed at universities. Failure to do so will result in fines, including going after endowments.

      I can see the fines, but how can you legally attack an endowment?

      Only with legislation. But that idea has been floated already by the GOP.

      The civil rights division of the DoJ could cause the universities quite a bit of pain on this issue if they wanted to, which would fuel individual lawsuits as well.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I think we're in big trouble.

        I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

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        @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

        I think we're in big trouble.

        I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

        We had one where I did undergrad, “Speakers’ Corner”.. It was an inside large area, an intersection of 4 hallways & the main entry to 4 buildings. Everything was protested: tuition, abortion, gays, women’s’ rights, wars, Trudeau #1, Quebec, guns, cannabis. Things were also celebrated: Hockey, last days of classes. When the crowds got too large, they simply had the fire department close it down for safety reasons. People exited to the outside to continue on an adjacent small hill, which also got closed down by campus security & the police on occasion.

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          @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

          I think we're in big trouble.

          I firmly believe in a free speech area on campus. Protest, scream, argue and persuade to your heart's content. At LSU, it used to be called Free Speech Alley, where as long as it didn't get physical or break any laws such as public nudity or shooting up drugs, you could say or do about what you wanted to. But your time at the university would be very short if you wanted to carry that stuff out of the alley to where it impinged upon other students and their education.

          We had one where I did undergrad, “Speakers’ Corner”.. It was an inside large area, an intersection of 4 hallways & the main entry to 4 buildings. Everything was protested: tuition, abortion, gays, women’s’ rights, wars, Trudeau #1, Quebec, guns, cannabis. Things were also celebrated: Hockey, last days of classes. When the crowds got too large, they simply had the fire department close it down for safety reasons. People exited to the outside to continue on an adjacent small hill, which also got closed down by campus security & the police on occasion.

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          @blondie said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

          Speakers’ Corner”.

          I think there is something like that in London - but upon to the public. If I remember, there is platform people can stand on to talk about tings. When i watched them, it was usually pretty weird crazy people talking mostly nonsense. Interesting and a bit funny.

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            Same with Columbia - just more of em.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

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                @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                not students at all

                Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                    not students at all

                    Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

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                    @George-K said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                    @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                    not students at all

                    Ilhan Omar's daughter was arrested at Columbia. She's not a student there.

                    She’s a Barnard student, IIRC, which is affiliated. Back in the olden days when Columbia only admitted men, it was the women’s college attached to it.

                    Remember Bootsy from PW? Anyone who has been to a NY piano party knows him. He used to be a prof there.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Yeah, it's whataboutism, but...

                      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1783964668987609379.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        #91

                        It’s also not about Columbia or any other institution in the news right now over the issue.

                        It seems to be an example of outgroup homogeneity bias:

                        Person A: I believe X
                        Person B: I believe !X

                        Person C You guys are hypocrites

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.

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                            You’re more optimistic than I am.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

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                              @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                              At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

                              Paid by the far Left. Agitation, destabilization, trying to influence votes.

                              We've seen this before.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                At Ohio State yesterday 36 were arrested. 20 were not students at all. Folks, these are paid agitators.

                                Paid by the far Left. Agitation, destabilization, trying to influence votes.

                                We've seen this before.

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                                George K
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                                @Jolly said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                We've seen this before.

                                Chicago's gonna be a hoot in August.

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  I think that was more organic. I've got the feeling much of the current situation is bought and paid for.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    In 1968 American kids were dying in Vietnam. Gazans are dying primarily because they supported, directly or indirectly, genocidal maniacs who see the deaths as fodder for their hatred. They love their grudges more than their children. There’s no legitimate comparison.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      In 1968 American kids were dying in Vietnam. Gazans are dying primarily because they supported, directly or indirectly, genocidal maniacs who see the deaths as fodder for their hatred. They love their grudges more than their children. There’s no legitimate comparison.

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                                      @Mik said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                      In 1968 American kids were dying in Vietnam. Gazans are dying primarily because they supported, directly or indirectly, genocidal maniacs who see the deaths as fodder for their hatred. They love their grudges more than their children. There’s no legitimate comparison.

                                      I'm not drawing a comparison between the motivations of the two groups. Clearly they are different, as you point out.

                                      Simply saying that if you think the mayhem at the universities is something, just you wait.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.

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                                        @89th said in What’s happening at Columbia?:

                                        The college left yearns to be part of a 1968 college protest level movement. One day they’ll grow up.

                                        That used to be true. It's what the boomers did.

                                        But you tend to grow up when you've a stake in something. Very much unlike boomers, today's kids grow up with dwindling job prospects, lower marriage rates, later marriages for those who marry at all, far fewer who have children, and no reasonable possibility of owning a home.

                                        Bootstrap platitudes don't really cut it.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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