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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @Horace

    Low self awareness correlates with being a lefty….

    Not to derail the thread but…..

    How does that factor in for the likes of Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz or even that Donald Trump character?

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    @Renauda said in Hamas attacks Israel:

    @Horace

    Low self awareness correlates with being a lefty….

    Not to derail the thread but…..

    How does that factor in for the likes of Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz and even that Donald Trump character?

    People who get to the top might be more self aware than they let on. Trump is a conscious opportunist. Tucker has those texts where he admits to despising Trump. I don't know much about the others. But people who float to the top in politics are not great examples of the tendencies of the masses under them. They will all have enough awareness to navigate to their goal, even if part of that navigation is to convince everybody that what they say and do is what they really believe.

    Education is extremely important.

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      #579

      Good thing the right isn’t subject to programming, otherwise some con men could talk them into supporting Russia and forgetting their decade-long, full-throated support of the Iraq war.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Obama speaks:

        https://barackobama.medium.com/my-statement-on-israel-and-gaza-a6c397f09a30

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          There wasn’t a single original thought in that whole piece. I don’t understand why he felt it necessary or desirable to release it. He’s not wrong, just late to the dance.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Good thing the right isn’t subject to programming, otherwise some con men could talk them into supporting Russia and forgetting their decade-long, full-throated support of the Iraq war.

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            @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

            Good thing the right isn’t subject to programming, otherwise some con men could talk them into supporting Russia and forgetting their decade-long, full-throated support of the Iraq war.

            You go with the information you have at the time. Back then, the Iraq War made sense. The only regret I have about that war is screwing over the Kurds, but I understand the realpolitick of why.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Mik

              There wasn’t a single original thought in that whole piece. I don’t understand why he felt it necessary or desirable to release it. He’s not wrong, just late to the dance.

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              @Mik said in Hamas attacks Israel:

              There wasn’t a single original thought in that whole piece. I don’t understand why he felt it necessary or desirable to release it. He’s not wrong, just late to the dance.

              He couldn't do it when he was President and he's still incapable of pinning the tail on the Muslim donkey.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Good thing the right isn’t subject to programming, otherwise some con men could talk them into supporting Russia and forgetting their decade-long, full-throated support of the Iraq war.

                You go with the information you have at the time. Back then, the Iraq War made sense. The only regret I have about that war is screwing over the Kurds, but I understand the realpolitick of why.

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                @Jolly said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                @jon-nyc said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                Good thing the right isn’t subject to programming, otherwise some con men could talk them into supporting Russia and forgetting their decade-long, full-throated support of the Iraq war.

                You go with the information you have at the time. Back then, the Iraq War made sense. The only regret I have about that war is screwing over the Kurds, but I understand the realpolitick of why.

                The change in information was obvious in 2006. It was only a decade later that you changed your tune, and only after Trump gave you permission to do so without betraying your tribe.

                I’m giving you a bit of credit with that last sentence. I assume part of you knew it was a strategic failure years before, but it took Trump giving you cover before you could say it out loud.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Trump. The man strides through your brain with seven-league boots.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    British international law expert interviewed by BBC.

                    "There is no requirement, under international law, to provide humanitarian aid."

                    Once again, BBC approaches this from the plight of the Gazans.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      British international law expert interviewed by BBC.

                      "There is no requirement, under international law, to provide humanitarian aid."

                      Once again, BBC approaches this from the plight of the Gazans.

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                      @George-K said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                      Once again, BBC approaches this from the plight of the Gazans.

                      If you look at the BBC website there are plenty of articles about the horrors that have happened to the Israelis written from their perspective. Many of them are very difficult to read. I don't feel that the situation of the Gazans should be ignored or overlooked. Clearly Hamas were the aggressor, and are monsters, but the regular folk in Gaza are suffering because of this.

                      I was only joking

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          "What I saw"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • HoraceH Online
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                            I think I've seen most of that just from stuff linked to here.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I'm not sure what more people need to see to know this has to not stop, but BE stopped. It isn't going to happen via ceasefires and negotiation.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Hamas did this on purpose. As brutal as they could be. Again, this was on purpose, what are the chess moves after this, since they knew it would draw Israel into a massive reaction. Is it a trap?

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                                  Terrorism can also be a sucker punch for the sake of a sucker punch. That said, revenge can also be revenge for the sake of revenge. I have heard no serious discussion of how any of this gets better. Unless it’s actually plausible to kill all the terrorists.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Hamas did this on purpose. As brutal as they could be. Again, this was on purpose, what are the chess moves after this, since they knew it would draw Israel into a massive reaction. Is it a trap?

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                                      @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                      the chess moves after this

                                      If hamas doesn't have a big surprise waiting for the invasion, they deserve whatever they get.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Hamas did this on purpose. As brutal as they could be. Again, this was on purpose, what are the chess moves after this, since they knew it would draw Israel into a massive reaction. Is it a trap?

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                                        @89th said in Hamas attacks Israel:

                                        Hamas did this on purpose. As brutal as they could be. Again, this was on purpose, what are the chess moves after this, since they knew it would draw Israel into a massive reaction. Is it a trap?

                                        United Front.

                                        Dream of the Arabs.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Yes, and potentially a "Let's see how dedicated the US really is to Israel" if Israel gets into trouble. I wasn't alive for it, but the 6 day war outcome is impressive.

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