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  • AxtremusA Away
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    Axtremus
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    #105

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lawyers-say-chatgpt-tricked-them-into-citing-fictitious-legal-research-1339ec41

    Lawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lawyers-say-chatgpt-tricked-them-into-citing-fictitious-legal-research-1339ec41

      Lawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research

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      taiwan_girl
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      #106

      @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/lawyers-say-chatgpt-tricked-them-into-citing-fictitious-legal-research-1339ec41

      Lawyers say ChatGPT tricked them into citing fictitious legal research

      If the lawyer was stupid enough to use Chat GPT and do no follow up, then he deserves whatever punishment he gets.

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Axtremus
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        #107

        https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/06/13/chatgpt-and-google-bard-adoption-remains-surprisingly-low

        Low adoption of AI chat bots, according to a JP Morgan study:

        ... only 19 per cent of the people who took part in the study said that they have used ChatGPT before, while only 9 per cent of the respondents have used the Google Bard chatbot.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #108

          Yeah that's not likely to change or anything.

          Please love yourself.

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          • YellowstoneY Offline
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            Yellowstone
            wrote on last edited by
            #109

            I promise to create a very hostile environment for AI Development in 2024…

            Make America Molten Again!

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/05/federal-judge-no-ai-in-my-courtroom-unless-a-human-verifies-its-accuracy/

              Federal judge: No AI in my courtroom unless a human verifies its accuracy
              Judge wary of AI "hallucinations," says it isn't acceptable for legal briefing.

              For now, I think it’s a good rule.

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by
              #110

              Follow-up:

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/lawyers-have-real-bad-day-in-court-after-citing-fake-cases-made-up-by-chatgpt/

              A federal judge tossed a lawsuit and issued a $5,000 fine to the plaintiff's lawyers after they used ChatGPT to research court filings that cited six fake cases invented by the artificial intelligence tool made by OpenAI. …
              … More embarrassingly for the lawyers, they are required to send letters to six real judges who were "falsely identified as the author of the fake" opinions cited in their legal filings. …

              $5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                Follow-up:

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/06/lawyers-have-real-bad-day-in-court-after-citing-fake-cases-made-up-by-chatgpt/

                A federal judge tossed a lawsuit and issued a $5,000 fine to the plaintiff's lawyers after they used ChatGPT to research court filings that cited six fake cases invented by the artificial intelligence tool made by OpenAI. …
                … More embarrassingly for the lawyers, they are required to send letters to six real judges who were "falsely identified as the author of the fake" opinions cited in their legal filings. …

                $5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #111

                @Axtremus said in ChatGPT:

                $5,000 fine is likely too lenient considering the lawyers could likely have billed more than that with merely a day’s work.

                Gotta protect your own, dont'cha know.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #112

                  https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

                    markM Offline
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                    #113

                    @taiwan_girl said in ChatGPT:

                    https://www.laptopmag.com/news/wormgpt-chatgpts-evil-twin-should-have-us-all-deeply-concerned

                    Silly human race.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #114

                      ChatGPT leans liberal, new research shows

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/16/chatgpt-ai-political-bias-research/

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #115

                        The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • CopperC Online
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                          Copper
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #116

                          It is young

                          It will grow up

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #117

                            A young AI that isn’t a little liberal has no heart. A mature AI that isn’t conservative has no brain…

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #118

                              @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                              The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                              The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #119

                                Imagine a future in which the majority of text on the internet was produced by ChatGPT et al - which is then fed into ChatGPT et al as training data.

                                What would this process converge to?

                                I'd suggest that some weird variant of the 2nd thermodynamic law implies that the chat bots will become more stupid with each iteration. They cannot produce text that contains new information or patterns that they don't already know. It's an endless loop of confirmation bias at work.

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                                  The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                                  The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #120

                                  @Klaus said in ChatGPT:

                                  @jon-nyc said in ChatGPT:

                                  The interesting question is whether it leans liberal only because the data set on which it was trained leans liberal, or if there was some intentionality behind it.

                                  The selection of which data to train it on was likely biased.

                                  Not necessarily. There are plenty of other ways to introduce bias in an AI model.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • AxtremusA Away
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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #121

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/george-r-r-martin-joins-authors-suing-openai-over-copyright-infringement/

                                    ... popular authors including John Grisham, Jonathan Franzen, George R.R. Martin, Jodi Picoult, and George Saunders joined the Authors Guild in suing OpenAI, alleging that training the company's large language models (LLMs) used to power AI tools like ChatGPT on pirated versions of their books violates copyright laws and is "systematic theft on a mass scale."

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                                    • AxtremusA Away
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #122

                                      https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/oct/02/tom-hanks-dental-ad-ai-version-fake

                                      Tom Hanks says AI version of him used in dental plan ad without his consent

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                                      • 89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #123

                                        Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                                        AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          AxtremusA Away
                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #124

                                          @89th said in ChatGPT:

                                          Let's pull this thread a bit further. We know the AI (deep fake) videos are here and will only get better, and they aren't going away. What if we also had AI-faked signatures on contracts that lie about the celebrity's contract to do the fake ad? Dangerous times we have entered.

                                          One solution is to insist on the contracting parties signing physical documents in blood. That way you get physical, biometric proofs right there.

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