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  • HoraceH Horace

    @George-K said in Chat GPT:

    @Horace in the twitter thread regarding this, there's an interesting comment. Basically, Chat GPT gathers its information from the web and other similar sources. It basically regurgitates what it reads.

    "This isn’t surprising considering it pulls data from the web… You can’t search for anything from history without getting some modern woke opinion story about the topic. Meanwhile Wikipedia one of the few places that atleast gives the ability to find original sources is demonized>

    Wikipedia is demonized by ChatGPT? how so? Examples?

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #46

    @Horace said in Chat GPT:

    Wikipedia is demonized by ChatGPT? how so? Examples?

    I didn't say that, that was in the twitter feed.

    But, I think what that poster meant to say is that Wikipedia is demonized by many for its slant, and not by ChatGPT.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
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      #47

      I’m not buying that chatGPT’s bias is entirely pulled from the data. It seems to have some hard coded logic attached to certain people which, for all the efforts of the indoctrinated masses, does not exist across the web to that degree. It’s not in fact impossible to find a nice thing to say about Donald Trump.

      Education is extremely important.

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        kluurs
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        #48

        Does it write pron? That will help move it into the mainstream.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          I’m not buying that chatGPT’s bias is entirely pulled from the data. It seems to have some hard coded logic attached to certain people which, for all the efforts of the indoctrinated masses, does not exist across the web to that degree. It’s not in fact impossible to find a nice thing to say about Donald Trump.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on last edited by
          #49

          Of course there are manually programmed restrictions. ChatGPT's website tells you upfront there are certain topics that are off limits.

          So what if ChatGPT and its maker OpenAI have ideological biases? They are non-governmental entities not obligated to respect your First Amendment rights.

          Here's an idea: take GPT-3 and train it with only contemporary American Conservative-leaning data, program in some hard restrictions about topics that contemporary American Conservatives would rather not talk about, and you can make yourself a contemporary American Conservative-leaning chat bot. It's like Conservatopedia as a response to Wikipedia, but with AI!

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #50

            “Is our AIs learning?”

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Ivorythumper said in Chat GPT:

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              I didn't get that.

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              Ivorythumper
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Chat GPT:

              @Ivorythumper said in Chat GPT:

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              I didn't get that.

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              It learns….

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              • NunataxN Offline
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                Nunatax
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                #52

                I wonder if it could solve any of jon’s or klaus’ math riddles.

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                Never mind…

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                • NunataxN Nunatax

                  I wonder if it could solve any of jon’s or klaus’ math riddles.

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                  Never mind…

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #53

                  @Nunatax

                  What do you mean ‘never mind’?

                  That’s the same answer I got.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG George K

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #54

                    @George-K said in Chat GPT:

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                    Does anyone take Jack Prosobiec seriously? How about twice?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      bachophile
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                      • bachophileB bachophile

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #56

                        @bachophile like any good radiologist, it says that "clinical correlation is required."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Nunatax

                          What do you mean ‘never mind’?

                          That’s the same answer I got.

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                          Nunatax
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #57

                          @jon-nyc said in Chat GPT:

                          @Nunatax

                          What do you mean ‘never mind’?

                          That’s the same answer I got.

                          It may have demonstrated having (at least basic) mathematical skills, but it failed quite miserably at solving the riddle…

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                            https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/10sja83/3d_printer_does_homework_chatgpt_wrote/

                            A 3D printer is used to control a pen to "hand write" homework, using ChatGPT content as the input. Best comment? It's ok, the teacher is going to use OCR and ChatGPT to grade it!

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                            • NunataxN Nunatax

                              @jon-nyc said in Chat GPT:

                              @Nunatax

                              What do you mean ‘never mind’?

                              That’s the same answer I got.

                              It may have demonstrated having (at least basic) mathematical skills, but it failed quite miserably at solving the riddle…

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #59

                              @Nunatax I was joking….

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                So for all its sophistication, it's really still failing the Turing test quite badly.

                                I guess a year from now it won't be, but who knows?

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @Nunatax I was joking….

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                                  Nunatax
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #61

                                  @jon-nyc said in Chat GPT:

                                  @Nunatax I was joking….

                                  I thought so, but I wasn’t 100% sure… after all, you’re not a biologist, right? 😄

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    Note that ChatGPT has the intelligence to know when to back off and apologize.

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                                      #63

                                      https://www.reuters.com/technology/tech-giants-ai-like-bing-bard-poses-billion-dollar-search-problem-2023-02-22/

                                      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/chatgpt-style-search-represents-a-10x-cost-increase-for-google-microsoft/

                                      Articles say "ChatGPT-like search" will cost Google multiple $billions in operating cost, "10x" the cost of conventional search. :man-shrugging:

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          Of course there are manually programmed restrictions. ChatGPT's website tells you upfront there are certain topics that are off limits.

                                          So what if ChatGPT and its maker OpenAI have ideological biases? They are non-governmental entities not obligated to respect your First Amendment rights.

                                          Here's an idea: take GPT-3 and train it with only contemporary American Conservative-leaning data, program in some hard restrictions about topics that contemporary American Conservatives would rather not talk about, and you can make yourself a contemporary American Conservative-leaning chat bot. It's like Conservatopedia as a response to Wikipedia, but with AI!

                                          AxtremusA Away
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #65

                                          @Axtremus said in Chat GPT:

                                          So what if ChatGPT and its maker OpenAI have ideological biases? They are non-governmental entities not obligated to respect your First Amendment rights.
                                          .
                                          Here's an idea: take GPT-3 and train it with only contemporary American Conservative-leaning data, program in some hard restrictions about topics that contemporary American Conservatives would rather not talk about, and you can make yourself a contemporary American Conservative-leaning chat bot. It's like Conservatopedia as a response to Wikipedia, but with AI!

                                          So, this is happening:
                                          https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzjpn/ai-chatbot-white-supremacist-gab
                                          …
                                          Gab, a white supremacist forum that’s a favorite of mass shooters and organizers of the Capitol riot, and 8kun, the home of QAnon, have announced they’re launching AI engines— and they’re training them on the same content that has in the past led multiple internet companies to cut ties and take the platforms offline.
                                          …

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