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  • MikM Offline
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    #108

    But then he’s still on the vent, so….

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      He was conscious last night, able to follow commands and asked who won the game. Good sign.

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      @Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

      asked who won the game

      Asked who won the game??? That's great! LOL.

      Present and accounted for, eh?

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        #110

        They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

        Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

          Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

          They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

          Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

          Don't forget. According to the NFL, they're only concerned with the health of Hamlin.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

            Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

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            #112

            @LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

            They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

            Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

            Someone is getting a promotion for having that idea.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              How will they work him into the Super Bowl halftime show?

              Simple thoughts and prayers, or a live feed from the ICU, maybe a drive-by in an ambulance

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              • George KG Offline
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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George - when might they try to extubate him? Now that he’s awake and all.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    George - when might they try to extubate him? Now that he’s awake and all.

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                    @jon-nyc several criteria have to be met.

                    Among them:

                    • ability to maintain a reasonable SpO2 on a low FiO2 (probably about 0.4)
                    • ability to maintain spontaneous respiration with endotracheal tube in place for a predetermined length of time - in my day, it was 24 hours - with no ventilatory support
                    • ability to protect one's airway. Given that he's conscious, I doubt that this is an issue
                    • assurance that his lungs have recovered from whatever insult they may have sustained (related to #1)
                    • stable, or improving chest x-ray
                    • assure adequate strength to maintain #2 and #3 (probably not an issue since his illness has been so acute and short-lived)

                    #1 and #2 are the most important.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      #117

                      Thanks.

                      So it could hopefully be soon I would think.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Thanks.

                        So it could hopefully be soon I would think.

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                        @jon-nyc those were, more or less, the criteria back in the dark ages when I was a fellow on the ICU service (respiratory). I imagine the criteria haven't changed all that much.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Do we even know if he's staying conscious?

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            From CNN: "Here are the major takeaways from today's news conference at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, where Hamlin has been treated since he collapsed Monday night:

                            Hamlin has made "substantial progress": The player is demonstrating signs of "good neurologic recovery as well as overall clinical improvement," UC Health Dr. William Knight told reporters.

                            It's still a long road to recovery: Doctors emphasized multiple times that Hamlin has a "ways to go." He'll need to start breathing on his own, and taking him off a ventilator will be a cautious, gradual process. UC Health Dr. Timothy Pritts said it's too soon to say for sure whether he'll make a full recovery.

                            Hamlin is interacting with family: Loved ones at Hamlin's bedside have been able to hold his hand and communicate with him through written messages, though the player isn't speaking. Doctors said he even asked if the Bills had won the game.

                            The cause of his cardiac arrest is not yet clear: The doctors said tests are still underway to determine what caused the medical emergency and that there are no "definitive answers" at this time.

                            An outpouring of support: Doctors thanked community members for holding vigils, sending food to the hospital and lighting Cincinnati in the Bills' red and blue.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              https://www.wcpo.com/sports/football/bengals/ap-bengals-bills-will-not-be-played-heres-what-that-means-for-the-playoffs?fbclid=IwAR29cNJbELsWQ2lWzCOzCUlrI3AqSO0L4_LTdbNGiQtWM3CCNTbnECg5WrA

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                https://www.wcpo.com/sports/football/bengals/ap-bengals-bills-will-not-be-played-heres-what-that-means-for-the-playoffs?fbclid=IwAR29cNJbELsWQ2lWzCOzCUlrI3AqSO0L4_LTdbNGiQtWM3CCNTbnECg5WrA

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                                @Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                https://www.wcpo.com/sports/football/bengals/ap-bengals-bills-will-not-be-played-heres-what-that-means-for-the-playoffs?fbclid=IwAR29cNJbELsWQ2lWzCOzCUlrI3AqSO0L4_LTdbNGiQtWM3CCNTbnECg5WrA

                                Just give both the Bengals and Buffalo W’s for last week. That way all of the other teams have to play the week straight up, the way they should. The only team it screws is the Ravens, and who really cares about that?

                                If the Bengals and Bills win this week and KC loses, give the Bengals the #1 Seed by virtue of head to head against KC and they had the lead and homefield advantage in the game against Buffalo…

                                The Brad

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Screwing the Ravens is a great idea.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    So here’s the proposal

                                    It essentially screws everyone but the Chiefs and Patriots.

                                    If I made the decisions for the Bengals, I would take this week as my bye. There’s a small chance that you will meet the Ravens, and it would be better to be healthy and rested…

                                    The Brad

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                                    • 89th8 Online
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                                      Who in the NFL is discussing this? Remember, they're "only concerned with the health of Hamlin."

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Who in the NFL is discussing this? Remember, they're "only concerned with the health of Hamlin."

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                                        @89th said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                                        Who in the NFL is discussing this? Remember, they're "only concerned with the health of Hamlin."

                                        Competition committee voted last night. Owners today. The league and NFLPA have all been in on the conversation.

                                        The Brad

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                                          My utmost respect for them to fight through their existential despair at watching this young man nearly lose his life. Thinking about money and their livelihoods at a time like that must have been all but impossible. I know I wouldn't have been able to do it. I would still be in a fetal position if I were them, maybe in need of an IV feeding tube. Because I'm a good person.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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