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  • HoraceH Horace

    If he doesn't make it, they should replace the super bowl halftime show with his funeral. Just to keep everything in perspective.

    The reaction is so arbitrary. I am very sure everybody involved in dealing with the fallout, is looking sideways at everybody else, putting their finger to the wind, trying to gauge at what point we move on in a unemotional manner and enjoy football, without the downer scaffolding of pretending to care about this man's life way more than anybody but his friends and family actually do. A strong emotional reaction to watching a man almost die on the field, in the moment, is not actual caring, and it does not last. How many hundreds of Jim Kellys are out there with pathetic qualities of life, as inside their skulls is the brain of a demented 100 year old? Not to mention the physical deterioration. All because of this game. But that's out of sight, and out of mind. This one incident is bringing an entire season to its knees, because everybody's reaction is on trial.

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    @Horace said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

    If he doesn't make it, they should replace the super bowl halftime show with his funeral.

    And they could award points for death on the field.

    A death is worth at least 6 points. A Cincinnati win 7-3, would become a 9-7 Buffalo win.

    It could become a new tactic when things get desperate at the end of a game.

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      #101

      The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

      Season looks like the game will not be played.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

        Season looks like the game will not be played.

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        @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

        The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

        Season looks like the game will not be played.

        Read my earlier post. They are going to play the week 18 games, cross their fingers, and hope the results mean the Cin/Buf game is rendered mostly irrelevant.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

          The Bengals-Ravens game for Sunday will be played at 1 PM ET," said Field Yates.

          Season looks like the game will not be played.

          Read my earlier post. They are going to play the week 18 games, cross their fingers, and hope the results mean the Cin/Buf game is rendered mostly irrelevant.

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          @LuFins-Dad I’m sure that would be my response if I were in charge. If there’s a chance the problem is going to go away in 4 days, wait it out.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            UC Medical personnel last night described Hamlin as 'neurologically intact'. Someone I know translated that to 'cognitively intact'. Not sure those two are the same thing.

            George? Bach?

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              #105

              It has also been reported -- I don't know by who, possibly a teammate -- that he opened his eyes last night. Also that he is obeying commands.

              Somebody clarified that "neurologically intact" means he's making movements under his own brainpower.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                Our top restaurateur, Jeff Ruby, is catering diner for Hamlin's family every night. And it ain't PB&Js.

                https://www.fox19.com/2023/01/05/it-becomes-personal-me-jeff-ruby-caters-free-dinner-damar-hamlins-family/

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  He was conscious last night, able to follow commands and asked who won the game. Good sign.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    But then he’s still on the vent, so….

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      He was conscious last night, able to follow commands and asked who won the game. Good sign.

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                      @Mik said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                      asked who won the game

                      Asked who won the game??? That's great! LOL.

                      Present and accounted for, eh?

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

                        Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

                          Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                          They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

                          Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

                          Don't forget. According to the NFL, they're only concerned with the health of Hamlin.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

                            Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Bills Bengals - ambulance on the field:

                            They are talking now about eliminating the bye week for the first seed and adding an 8th playoff team in each Conference. Seeding would be based on winning percentage.

                            Leave it to the NFL to figure out a way to make MORE money out of this…

                            Someone is getting a promotion for having that idea.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              How will they work him into the Super Bowl halftime show?

                              Simple thoughts and prayers, or a live feed from the ICU, maybe a drive-by in an ambulance

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George - when might they try to extubate him? Now that he’s awake and all.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    George - when might they try to extubate him? Now that he’s awake and all.

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                                    @jon-nyc several criteria have to be met.

                                    Among them:

                                    • ability to maintain a reasonable SpO2 on a low FiO2 (probably about 0.4)
                                    • ability to maintain spontaneous respiration with endotracheal tube in place for a predetermined length of time - in my day, it was 24 hours - with no ventilatory support
                                    • ability to protect one's airway. Given that he's conscious, I doubt that this is an issue
                                    • assurance that his lungs have recovered from whatever insult they may have sustained (related to #1)
                                    • stable, or improving chest x-ray
                                    • assure adequate strength to maintain #2 and #3 (probably not an issue since his illness has been so acute and short-lived)

                                    #1 and #2 are the most important.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Thanks.

                                      So it could hopefully be soon I would think.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Thanks.

                                        So it could hopefully be soon I would think.

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                                        @jon-nyc those were, more or less, the criteria back in the dark ages when I was a fellow on the ICU service (respiratory). I imagine the criteria haven't changed all that much.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Do we even know if he's staying conscious?

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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