"Do Masks Work?"
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 14:20 last edited by
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 14:41 last edited by
Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
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Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 15:02 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
Yeah, but it dovetails with the findings of the Australia/Vietnam study.
- Cloth masks suck.
- Surgical masks do work better and can slow transmission down a bit.
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@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
Yeah, but it dovetails with the findings of the Australia/Vietnam study.
- Cloth masks suck.
- Surgical masks do work better and can slow transmission down a bit.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 15:11 last edited by@jolly said in "Do Masks Work?":
@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
Yeah, but it dovetails with the findings of the Australia/Vietnam study.
- Cloth masks suck.
- Surgical masks do work better and can slow transmission down a bit.
@jolly said in "Do Masks Work?":
@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
Way too many variables to be of much use, imo
Yeah, but it dovetails with the findings of the Australia/Vietnam study.
- Cloth masks suck.
- Surgical masks do work better and can slow transmission down a bit.
But if I remember correctly, the Aussie study also didn’t account for behavioral changes that could have had an effect. Also, didn’t I see another study on a preventative medicine (AZ, I believe) that showed 30% reduction in symptomatic cases, but it was dismissed because 30% was deemed as possibly coincidental?
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 19:03 last edited by
The latest on impact of masks.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 19:18 last edited by
You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
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You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 21:12 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
What about the study did you take issue with? Over 300,000 individuals sounds like a lot but it was Bangladesh and it was likely not peer reviewed but it is the most serious attempt I’ve seen. Also it is not contaminated by US politics.
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You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 21:18 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
What level of assurance would you need to feel comfortable with a rough rule of thumb?
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 21:22 last edited by Jolly 9 Jan 2021, 21:22
Full study, peer-reviewed on American soil and repeatable in a situation with a similar R.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 21:56 last edited by
@jolly said in "Do Masks Work?":
Full study, peer-reviewed on American soil and repeatable in a situation with a similar R.
We've got people who think that drinking lots of Indian tonic water helps keep you safe. I don't think the difference between double-blind and blind drunk is going to make much of an impact to a lot of folks.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:10 last edited by
The best information I can get hold of is this.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:15 last edited by
It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
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wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:19 last edited by
I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.
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I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:23 last edited by@mik said in "Do Masks Work?":
I wore one today going into a small green grocer, because they recommended it. I did not when I got my haircut. Who knows. If I am in a place where a lot of folks are I don't mind.
Same here
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It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:26 last edited by@george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":
It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
That’s my view as well.
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@george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":
It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
That’s my view as well.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:26 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
That’s my view as well.
If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.
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It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:29 last edited by@george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":
It's really frustrating. People scream "Follow the science!" when there really is no good science that it makes a difference. Looking at North and South Dakota seems to be a good comparison (though, I'm sure there are many uncontrolled variables).
People who mask probably "socially distance." Which is the variable that makes a difference? I'll submit that we'll never know.
You're not going to get a good peer-reviewed double-blind study.
Those comments said, yeah, I wear a mask because, well, why the hell not? It might make a difference.
It might not.
But, I still don't see any compelling science.
I wear a mask to be respectful and don’t when other people aren’t wearing them. I don’t worry much about Covid for myself at the moment but I wouldn’t go to an indoor venue for a music event.
I’ve been flying a bit and see that people are good about wearing masks, and right ones and shape right up when they are told to put it over their nose. I can’t tell if some people are trying to test the system but I see they value more not being on the no fly list.
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@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
That’s my view as well.
If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 22:29 last edited by@george-k said in "Do Masks Work?":
@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
That’s my view as well.
If the "science" used to justify masks were applied to vaccines, we'd have no one vaccinated.
As pointed out by your post earlier about the 2 month spikes, the results of these tests could be based simply on where in the timeline we are measuring….
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@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
What level of assurance would you need to feel comfortable with a rough rule of thumb?
wrote on 1 Sept 2021, 23:32 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in "Do Masks Work?":
@lufins-dad said in "Do Masks Work?":
You mean the study that did nothing of the sort? It ended no debate.
What level of assurance would you need to feel comfortable with a rough rule of thumb?
It was Bangladeshi statistics.
What percentage of the Bangladeshi people can count to 10?
Find a country where at least 50% of the survey respondents can understand the question.
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wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 02:38 last edited by Loki 9 Feb 2021, 02:40
Defense of the study.
https://www.livescience.com/randomized-trial-shows-surgical-masks-work-curbing-covid.html
US researchers involved. Currently being peer reviewed.
Looks like we may get an answer.