@horace said in Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.:
@loki said in Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.:
@horace said in Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.:
@loki said in Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.:
@jolly said in Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about.:
Lying. Political weaselization.
https://theintercept.com/2021/07/27/covid-anthony-fauci-rand-paul-research/
A worthy read to help dispassionate folks gain context to the political hit job vs full context and reality.
Kangaroo courts are great for folks who have no interest in the truth.
lol. Say, Loki, did you find any political bent to that article or was it completely dispassionate to your eyes?
On social networks, Republican operatives unconcerned with the facts — like Richard Grenell, the Twitter troll who served as Donald Trump’s director of national intelligence for three months — cheered on Paul’s attack.
In the wake of Paul’s attack on Fauci, several prominent scientists who question the wisdom and safety of gain-of-function experiments — in which biologists deliberately create pandemic-causing pathogens in the lab in order to better prepare to combat them should they evolve in nature — refused to speak to me on the record. One after another, they said Paul’s patently false claim that Fauci was to blame for the pandemic, and his selective outrage at gain-of-function research only when conducted in China, made it all but impossible for them to say anything about the pre-pandemic experiments in Wuhan without being vilified by partisans.
One biologist who supports such research told me that he would have liked the opportunity to correct what he called misinformation about the experiments, but had been worn down by death threats.
Lol death threats! So he can't weigh in on the Paul/Fauci debate!
What a wonderful, truth seeking article that is. Thanks for sniffing it out amidst all the politicized dreck, Loki.
Horace- state your case for lying. Let’s see it. It’s a bunch of allegations from partisans. Let’s see it. You are the accuser. The NIH says you are wrong.
Burden of proof, right? That is still important righttttt?????
You're not following along. We started when I asked you to substantiate your claim that Paul was misrepresenting the truth. (To which you added a nice dismissive partisan shot about how Paul was pandering to tribalists.) Actually I agree that you could call Paul's accusation about "responsibility for 4 million deaths", a misrepresentation. I wasn't expecting you to be completely incapable of answering the question. I just wondered how you would answer it. Turns out, you chose to assign me homework to answer it for you.
I never (seriously) accused Fauci of lying. I presented the case, mostly made in the WaPo piece, that he was resting on a technicality from a recent change to the NIH's definition of GoF. Again, it is difficult to have this discussion if you aren't following along.
Rand won’t even take the vaccine. It’s a tough starting point for me. The line of questioning I would be interested in is why we let China off the hook on the origin theory of Covid. But once he said Fauci was responsible for millions of deaths I admittedly shut down. He is a physician and his words and actions have extra import. I can take that criticism.
