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@Horace

The other hope would be that the tariffs are a negotiating tool which will motivate more advantageous trade agreements for America.

Take dairy. Hypothetically Canada caves and gets rid of its supply management that assigns the US a tariff free quota for dairy products. We too revert back to a government subsidy system as in the US and EU, to keep our domestic dairy industry viable - you know, the Support Your Local Farmer ethos. The problem though is that consumers here are so pissed off at the US that they refuse to buy US produced dairy products. Canadian distributors and suppliers stop importing because the demand is not there. Consumers would rather pay a premium for Canadian or EU made products because they are not of US origin.

Once again I come back to the statement, you cannot fool the market.

No problem, RT will fill the void.

Maybe. Quebec might even open their breakers too.

Nothing is off the table.

Jens-Frederik Nielsen, leader of the center-right Demokraatit party that won this week's parliamentary election, was joined by outgoing Prime Minister Mute B. Egede to lead protesters toward the US consulate on Nuuk's outskirts.

"We want to be ourselves, and our autonomy and freedom will never be put up for debate," Nielsen told the Danish Broadcasting Corporation during the rally.

"There is not the slightest chance that I will talk to Trump about Greenland becoming part of the US. Greenland will be Greenland," he said.

https://amp.dw.com/en/greenland-hundreds-protest-against-trumps-takeover-plans/a-71933403

Clearer idea about the tariffs, maybe……

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-global-tariffs-canada-1.7484790

Sorry to learn of this jon. It seems so wasteful given the practical medical benefit that would have resulted. But as Blondie pointed out you and your team are smart, you’ll find a way.

After pleading guilty to military charges of obstructing justice, the 23-year-old acknowledged he knew his actions were illegal but felt he needed to share the truth about how the Biden administration was misleading the American public about the war in Ukraine.

“If I saved even one American, Russian or Ukrainian life against this senseless money-grab war, my punishment was worth it,” he said, his politicized comments a stark contrast to the contrite apology he issued at his federal sentencing.

Oh, the poor persecuted victim he is. Such a hero; a post pubescent Snowden.

@jon-nyc

Yes, in fact it would be an enforced Standing Order.

However Russia wasn’t quite the “another country” that I had in mind when I posted that. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink

@LuFins-Dad

Still, it’s classless

Indeed, and if Vance were to attend a concert in another country right now at least there would have been tomatoes served with the jeers. All a matter of protocol.

@Jolly said in Haaretz: TuCa and Elon promoting Holocaust revisionism:

Thread necromancy has limited appeal. It's like trying to pick up a conversation from years ago.

Especially when it exposes an inconvenient truth about one’s tribal affiliations. Right?

We’ve all been there:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/829240602725169?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

@Horace

The global market and its efficiencies are sort of a big deal, and America's prosperity depends on it. So does America's piggy bank, the stock market.

I agree.

I know I’ve said before but….

You cannot fool the market. In fact you cannot fool the market any more than you can fool the law of gravity. Any politician(s) in past who thought they could, failed. Sometimes with catastrophic consequences. This time round won’t be any different.

Hey Beauregard, address the topic of the thread instead of deflecting from the discussion with your usual atavistic and false narratives in praise of your covetous MAGAt Moses.

What about Trump’s bald face lies and threats against Canada? What about the punitive sanctions?

Bet you haven’t the balls to engage the subject directly.

@89th

I spent a few months in Kazakhstan in the 90s and again in 2007. I came to like it quite a bit.

Northeastern and especially Southeast Kazakhstan are spectacular. The Tian Shan Mountains around Almaty make the Rockies look like foothills. I didn’t think the western or north central parts were anything special. Endless steppe that turns into an arid wasteland as you head south towards Uzbekistan. Huge country though.

@jon-nyc

I agree with all you say here but that’s a bit too detailed for Trump’s attention span.

Not just Trump’s. I can think of a couple of others as well.

@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

The simplest explanation is that he thinks trade deficits are a per se bad thing and tariffs are a per se good thing.

Ostensibly yes, but if you subtract the oil and gas imports from Alberta into the US, the US is actually running a trade surplus with Canada which, for the most part, is in value added products and services. Take aluminum for beer cans. We ship rolled aluminium into the US and the US sells it back to Canadian brewers as beer can blanks.

Arguably even the discounted oil which we send to the US gets blended with US product or as in case of natural gas, it is liquified and exported to third markets.

Tell me then who is subsidizing who?

@xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

The more he goes on about the more we are viewing it as a destabilising threat:

"Is [Trump] trying to change political views in this country? If so, that's foreign interference," said Dick Fadden, who also headed CSIS and served as national security adviser to former prime minister Stephen Harper.

"It's no more acceptable from the United States than it is from China or Russia or anybody else."

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7479890

@Horace

Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

That is question I have been wrestling with the past week or so. Sooner or later Trump will have to take on the unions to drive down the cost of labour. And not by any small margin either. He seems oblivious to the fact that manufacturing moved elsewhere owing to the high cost of US labour. We struggle with the same issue here in Canada but to a much lesser extent in part because of higher personal income taxes. Also industry here is not burdened with having to administer costly employee benefit packages such as private health care insurance or even pension funds.

@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

If you want to contribute something to this thread then write something that gives the rest of us at least a slight impression that there is something other than shit between your ears.

You have nothing to say other than your usual trite snark so STFU.

@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

Shorter lines at Disney.

And lower domestic vacation prices.

Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

Passive aggression is a tactic of the weak. You seem to relish its use- KathyK did as well and, like yourself, she too was intellectually bankrupt and was called to account on a daily basis. In your case the drive-by snark attack like the one above only illustrates just how frivolous and dim witted the MAGAt Brethren presents itself to the world. No wonder you garner no respect.