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  • C Copper
    19 Jun 2021, 17:09

    The event has some significance

    But the name is stupid

    Sorry, but it is stupid

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:12 last edited by
    #33

    @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

    But the name is stupid
    Sorry, but it is stupid

    This is for you and LuFin.

    I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • C Catseye3
      19 Jun 2021, 17:12

      @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      But the name is stupid
      Sorry, but it is stupid

      This is for you and LuFin.

      I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

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      Copper
      wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:14 last edited by
      #34

      @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      But the name is stupid
      Sorry, but it is stupid

      This is for you and LuFin.

      I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

      There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

      There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:22 last edited by
        #35

        You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

        You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

        Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          19 Jun 2021, 17:22

          You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

          You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

          Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

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          Loki
          wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by
          #36

          @doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

          You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

          You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

          Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

          Write me?

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          • C Copper
            19 Jun 2021, 17:14

            @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            But the name is stupid
            Sorry, but it is stupid

            This is for you and LuFin.

            I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

            There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

            There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by Catseye3
            #37

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

            No, it isn't. There's black American.

            When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Mik
              wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:17 last edited by
              #38

              Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                19 Jun 2021, 18:17

                Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:25 last edited by Catseye3
                #39

                @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                Doan be botherin me wif yo jive shit. I be readin up on AeroGarden an I'm 'bout to spend me some bank on this dope salad kit, got its own light an' ever'thang. AND it's $60 off!

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:55 last edited by
                  #40

                  Grow ye some herb, girl.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:24 last edited by
                    #41

                    Don't y'all live around ANY black folk? Juneteenth is a big deal, at least down here...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:35 last edited by
                      #42

                      It is in Texas. I first heard of it thirty years ago.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • C Catseye3
                        17 Jun 2021, 22:58

                        @catseye3 I thought about this some more.

                        It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery. It is a mark of respect at the very least. Maybe some ceremonies nationwide, faith based activities, what have you. But I don't think it rises to the level of a federal holiday.

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 00:59 last edited by
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                        @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                        It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery

                        FWIW it's not actually a commemoration of the end of slavery. That was abolished about two and half years before Juneteenth.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          19 Jun 2021, 12:48

                          Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:00 last edited by Aqua Letifer
                          #44

                          @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                          Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                          We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                          I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • A Aqua Letifer
                            20 Jun 2021, 01:00

                            @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                            Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                            We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                            I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:32 last edited by
                            #45

                            @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                            We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                            I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                            I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              20 Jun 2021, 01:32

                              @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                              We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                              I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                              I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:04 last edited by
                              #46

                              @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                              I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                              It will change eventually to a day for people without color.

                              That makes more sense.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:38 last edited by
                                #47

                                I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:33 last edited by
                                  #48

                                  NO. Sorry, this ain’t about English, this is basic math. What the flying fuck is Juneteenth? The 13th? 14th? 15th?

                                  I’ve heard of the 12 Days of Christmas, should we make it the 7 Days of Juneteenth?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • 8 89th
                                    20 Jun 2021, 02:38

                                    I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                    THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:33 last edited by
                                    #49

                                    @89th said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                    I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                    THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

                                    That’s Fedtober to you…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 15:31 last edited by Mik
                                      #50

                                      Cory Booker was on TV today. He has been touting a plan similar to what I have many times said here I could support. Every American child at birth has an account started for them and occasionally contributed to (annually?) based on family income. At 18 he figures those that have the full amount would have about $50K to spend on some approved thing - education, starting a business, buying property. That sort of thing.

                                      This makes much more sense to me in terms of addressing wealth inequality. Kids that otherwise would not grow up knowing they have a shot at the American dream and creating generational wealth. They would also grow up seeing for themselves how money grows and wealth is created.

                                      Your thoughts? It's not race based and makes much more sense than handing out a chunk of change to adults today who will be broke again in 6 months.

                                      Based on approximately 24% of 330 million Americans being under 18 I'd estimate somewhere around $30B annually.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • L LuFins Dad
                                        20 Jun 2021, 03:33

                                        @89th said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                        THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

                                        That’s Fedtober to you…

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 15:33 last edited by Jolly
                                        #51

                                        I was by my old alma mater last week. Displayed prominently in the administration lobby was a poster announcing a new series of scholarships, funded by the Jimmy Davis foundation (Jimmy was also an alumni).

                                        Louisiana has a TOPS program, which allows for state money for tuition at a private or public school for Louisiana students who take the TOPS curriculum and have a decent average. The JD scholarship would work in conjunction with the Pell grant program for those of lesser means. At the end of the day, that means a high school kid with a 2.5 average and at least about a 20 score on the ACT will qualify for a full four year ride at a private college (does not include housing or food). They have to maintain a C+ average in college, to continue to receive the scholarship.

                                        Folks, that is $112,000 worth of private college education. How much opportunity do you want?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 15:52 last edited by
                                          #52

                                          You can’t give someone the American Dream

                                          You have to earn it

                                          Hard work is the only way

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