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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #28

    Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

      That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

      What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

      You're right, that it was a bone, though.

      MikM Away
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #29

      @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

      About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

      That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

      What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

      You're right, that it was a bone, though.

      Exactly.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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        Catseye3
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        #30

        @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

        . . . ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday

        I'm kind of fuzzy in my mind about this, but there is something specious about the passage of this bill. In the present climate, it feels like it has more to do with wokeness, with gimmedat, than with a true spiritual recognition of the righting of a terrible wrong.

        This is fine if you're woke, wokeness undoubtedly has a lot to do with it, but let's acknowledge it for what it is: Noblesse oblige, and not all that respectfully delivered, either.

        People need to be watchful about the doing of a thing because it's the right thing to do, and the doing of it for some other, less noble reason.

        I'm thinking of the farmer and his garden in Watership Down right now.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          #31

          The event has some significance

          But the name is stupid

          Sorry, but it is stupid

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          • CopperC Copper

            The event has some significance

            But the name is stupid

            Sorry, but it is stupid

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #32

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            The event has some significance

            But the name is stupid

            Sorry, but it is stupid

            Exactly.

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            • CopperC Copper

              The event has some significance

              But the name is stupid

              Sorry, but it is stupid

              Catseye3C Offline
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              Catseye3
              wrote on last edited by
              #33

              @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

              But the name is stupid
              Sorry, but it is stupid

              This is for you and LuFin.

              I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                But the name is stupid
                Sorry, but it is stupid

                This is for you and LuFin.

                I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

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                Copper
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                #34

                @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                But the name is stupid
                Sorry, but it is stupid

                This is for you and LuFin.

                I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

                There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #35

                  You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                  You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                  Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                    You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                    Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

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                    Loki
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                    #36

                    @doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                    You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                    You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                    Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

                    Write me?

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                      @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                      But the name is stupid
                      Sorry, but it is stupid

                      This is for you and LuFin.

                      I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                      There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

                      There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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                      Catseye3
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                      #37

                      @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                      There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

                      No, it isn't. There's black American.

                      When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #38

                        Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

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                          Catseye3
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                          #39

                          @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                          Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                          Doan be botherin me wif yo jive shit. I be readin up on AeroGarden an I'm 'bout to spend me some bank on this dope salad kit, got its own light an' ever'thang. AND it's $60 off!

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
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                            #40

                            Grow ye some herb, girl.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Jolly
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                              Don't y'all live around ANY black folk? Juneteenth is a big deal, at least down here...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #42

                                It is in Texas. I first heard of it thirty years ago.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @catseye3 I thought about this some more.

                                  It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery. It is a mark of respect at the very least. Maybe some ceremonies nationwide, faith based activities, what have you. But I don't think it rises to the level of a federal holiday.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery

                                  FWIW it's not actually a commemoration of the end of slavery. That was abolished about two and half years before Juneteenth.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #44

                                    @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                    Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                                    We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                    I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                      Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                                      We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                      I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #45

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                      We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                      I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                      I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                        I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                        I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                                        CopperC Offline
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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #46

                                        @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                        I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                                        It will change eventually to a day for people without color.

                                        That makes more sense.

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                                          89th
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                                          I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                          THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

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