Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday

[LuFins Dad]

I don’t mind it being a holiday, but why do we have to call it Juneteenth. Can we just call it June 19th or Emancipation Day or something? Juneteenth just spreads the warped idea that African Americans are incapable of using a number and date system. #Stop the hate.

[jon-nyc]

Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

[Mik]

@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

About what I figured. The plantation owners threw 'em a bone. SMH.

That was one guy. There were other headlines that showed celebration (for some reason). There are going to be a wide variety of reactions; why not?

What is bothersome is your guy's use of we and they. They gave us. So long as that mindset prevails, we might as well hang it up as far as so-called equality goes.

You're right, that it was a bone, though.

Exactly.

[Catseye3]

@jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

. . . ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday

I'm kind of fuzzy in my mind about this, but there is something specious about the passage of this bill. In the present climate, it feels like it has more to do with wokeness, with gimmedat, than with a true spiritual recognition of the righting of a terrible wrong.

This is fine if you're woke, wokeness undoubtedly has a lot to do with it, but let's acknowledge it for what it is: Noblesse oblige, and not all that respectfully delivered, either.

People need to be watchful about the doing of a thing because it's the right thing to do, and the doing of it for some other, less noble reason.

I'm thinking of the farmer and his garden in Watership Down right now.

[Copper]

The event has some significance

But the name is stupid

Sorry, but it is stupid

[Loki]

@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

The event has some significance

But the name is stupid

Sorry, but it is stupid

Exactly.

[Catseye3]

@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupid

This is for you and LuFin.

I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

[Copper]

@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

But the name is stupid
Sorry, but it is stupid

This is for you and LuFin.

I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

[Doctor Phibes]

You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

[Loki]

@doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

Write me?

[Catseye3]

@copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

No, it isn't. There's black American.

When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?

[Mik]

Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

[Catseye3]

@mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

Doan be botherin me wif yo jive shit. I be readin up on AeroGarden an I'm 'bout to spend me some bank on this dope salad kit, got its own light an' ever'thang. AND it's $60 off!

[Mik]

Grow ye some herb, girl.

[Jolly]

Don't y'all live around ANY black folk? Juneteenth is a big deal, at least down here...

[Mik]

It is in Texas. I first heard of it thirty years ago.

[Aqua Letifer]

@catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery

FWIW it's not actually a commemoration of the end of slavery. That was abolished about two and half years before Juneteenth.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

[jon-nyc]

@aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

[Copper]

@jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

It will change eventually to a day for people without color.

That makes more sense.