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  • J jon-nyc
    19 Jun 2021, 12:48

    Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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    Catseye3
    wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 14:13 last edited by Catseye3
    #30

    @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

    . . . ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday

    I'm kind of fuzzy in my mind about this, but there is something specious about the passage of this bill. In the present climate, it feels like it has more to do with wokeness, with gimmedat, than with a true spiritual recognition of the righting of a terrible wrong.

    This is fine if you're woke, wokeness undoubtedly has a lot to do with it, but let's acknowledge it for what it is: Noblesse oblige, and not all that respectfully delivered, either.

    People need to be watchful about the doing of a thing because it's the right thing to do, and the doing of it for some other, less noble reason.

    I'm thinking of the farmer and his garden in Watership Down right now.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Copper
      wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:09 last edited by
      #31

      The event has some significance

      But the name is stupid

      Sorry, but it is stupid

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      • C Copper
        19 Jun 2021, 17:09

        The event has some significance

        But the name is stupid

        Sorry, but it is stupid

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        Loki
        wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:11 last edited by
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        @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

        The event has some significance

        But the name is stupid

        Sorry, but it is stupid

        Exactly.

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          19 Jun 2021, 17:09

          The event has some significance

          But the name is stupid

          Sorry, but it is stupid

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          Catseye3
          wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:12 last edited by
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          @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

          But the name is stupid
          Sorry, but it is stupid

          This is for you and LuFin.

          I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • C Catseye3
            19 Jun 2021, 17:12

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            But the name is stupid
            Sorry, but it is stupid

            This is for you and LuFin.

            I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

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            Copper
            wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:14 last edited by
            #34

            @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

            But the name is stupid
            Sorry, but it is stupid

            This is for you and LuFin.

            I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

            There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

            There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:22 last edited by
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              You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

              You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

              Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

              I was only joking

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                19 Jun 2021, 17:22

                You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

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                Loki
                wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by
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                @doctor-phibes said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                You invented the phrase 'fanny pack', and you think this is stupid?

                You say 'I could care less', and you think this is dumb?

                Don't get me started on 'write me' and 'Reach out'.

                Write me?

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                • C Copper
                  19 Jun 2021, 17:14

                  @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                  @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                  But the name is stupid
                  Sorry, but it is stupid

                  This is for you and LuFin.

                  I don't agree that it's stupid. That assumes that the only acceptable language usage can be rooted in white English/English-American.

                  There is no such thing as white English, that would be stupid too

                  There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 17:29 last edited by Catseye3
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                  @copper said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                  There is American English, and that is the only acceptable language usage.

                  No, it isn't. There's black American.

                  When's the last time you described a good thing as 'dope'? Or referred to a friend as your homie? Or something super cool as 'all that'? Got somebody in your life who's a baby mama? A baby daddy?

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:17 last edited by
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                    Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      19 Jun 2021, 18:17

                      Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:25 last edited by Catseye3
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                      @mik said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                      Well, I used to describe dope as a good thing. Does that count?

                      Doan be botherin me wif yo jive shit. I be readin up on AeroGarden an I'm 'bout to spend me some bank on this dope salad kit, got its own light an' ever'thang. AND it's $60 off!

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 18:55 last edited by
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                        Grow ye some herb, girl.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:24 last edited by
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                          Don't y'all live around ANY black folk? Juneteenth is a big deal, at least down here...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 19 Jun 2021, 22:35 last edited by
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                            It is in Texas. I first heard of it thirty years ago.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • C Catseye3
                              17 Jun 2021, 22:58

                              @catseye3 I thought about this some more.

                              It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery. It is a mark of respect at the very least. Maybe some ceremonies nationwide, faith based activities, what have you. But I don't think it rises to the level of a federal holiday.

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 00:59 last edited by
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                              @catseye3 said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                              It's a fine idea to commemorate the end to slavery

                              FWIW it's not actually a commemoration of the end of slavery. That was abolished about two and half years before Juneteenth.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                19 Jun 2021, 12:48

                                Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:00 last edited by Aqua Letifer
                                #44

                                @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                                We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  20 Jun 2021, 01:00

                                  @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  Ending of slavery seems to me to be one of the the most important chapters in our history and is clearly deserving of a national holiday, probably more so than the most of the events or people we currently recognize that way. One can quibble on details but I’m not too concerned about it.

                                  We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                  I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 01:32 last edited by
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                                  @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                  We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                  I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                  I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    20 Jun 2021, 01:32

                                    @aqua-letifer said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                    We still have Columbus Day for crying out loud.

                                    I find it funny that some Italians actually take that shit seriously. As if the day were about them or something.

                                    I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:04 last edited by
                                    #46

                                    @jon-nyc said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                    I’ve always thought Columbus Day was a bit too ethnic.

                                    It will change eventually to a day for people without color.

                                    That makes more sense.

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 02:38 last edited by
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                                      I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                      THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:33 last edited by
                                        #48

                                        NO. Sorry, this ain’t about English, this is basic math. What the flying fuck is Juneteenth? The 13th? 14th? 15th?

                                        I’ve heard of the 12 Days of Christmas, should we make it the 7 Days of Juneteenth?

                                        The Brad

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                                          20 Jun 2021, 02:38

                                          I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                          THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2021, 03:33 last edited by
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                                          @89th said in Senate approves bill to make Juneteenth a federal holiday:

                                          I’m just looking forward to the next federal holiday: Febtober

                                          THE DAY IS MINE, TREBEK.

                                          That’s Fedtober to you…

                                          The Brad

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