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  • MikM Offline
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    wrote last edited by
    #2821

    The figure that really annihilates this is that in 1989 a hell of a lot more wealth was held in pension funds where today most all of it is in individuals’ retirement savings.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      #2822

      It’s just a statistic. Nothing ‘annihilates’ it unless you’re projecting some message or moral onto it yourself.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        The original tweet was meant to do exactly that. Whether you meant it that way I cannot say, but the intention was clearly to support the inequality claim. I’m not projecting anything other than it’s a bullshit statistic for the purpose.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          #2824

          Google says:

          In the USA, the percentage of the population aged 70 and older was approximately 9.1% in 1989 and is projected to be around 11.33% in 2025. The share of the older population has increased over this period due to increased life expectancy and the aging of the baby boomer generation.

          Percentage of Population in 1989
          Based on population data, the approximate percentages for age groups 70 and older in 1989 were:

          • 70-74 years: 3.5%
          • 75-79 years: 2.8%
          • 80-84 years: 2.2%
          • 85+ years: approximately 0.6% to 0.9% (extrapolated from data) [4]

          The total percentage of the population aged 70 and older in 1989 was approximately $3.5% + 2.8% + 2.2% + 0.6% = 9.1%.

          Percentage of Population in 2025
          For 2025, projected data provides a more precise breakdown:

          • 70-74 years: 4.5%
          • 75-79 years: 3%
          • 80-84 years: 1.91%
          • 85+ years: 1.92% [7]

          The total percentage of the population aged 70 and older in 2025 is approximately $4.5% + 3% + 1.91% + 1.92% = 11.33%.

          AI responses may include mistakes.

          [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2025/11/06/how-americans-are-thinking-about-aging/
          [2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/457822/share-of-old-age-population-in-the-total-us-population/
          [3] https://www.facebook.com/OfficialPeterMallouk/photos/a-record-32-of-household-wealth-is-now-held-by-americans-that-are-70-years-of-ag/1378770223686396/
          [4] https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/1989/
          [5] https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/AS112/as112.html
          [6] https://www.cato.org/blog/native-born-americans-are-not-losing-jobs-foreigners
          [7] https://www.neilsberg.com/insights/united-states-population-by-age/

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            #2825

            Wealth accumulates for the 70+ crowd faster than the population growth for the 70+ crowd.
            While this does not necessarily suggest "inequity," it does indicate "increased concentration" of wealth for the 70+ crowd.

            Wealth in pension funds vs. wealth in 401(k)? That comes down to control. The wealth in pension funds meant to benefit the 70+crowd is not controlled by the 70+ crowd. The wealth in 401(k) accounts of the 70+ crowd is controlled by the 70+ crowd. Is one "better" than the other? That's a whole other discussion.

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