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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    Please love yourself.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #13

      Lol, the problem is this isn’t panic buying for me... Just out of gas...

      The Brad

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        How do you like them electric vehicles now?

        Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

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        • MikM Offline
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          It amazes me that they don't have a more robust disaster recovery plan in place.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            How do you like them electric vehicles now?

            Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

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            Mik
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            @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

            How do you like them electric vehicles now?

            Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

            Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

              How do you like them electric vehicles now?

              Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

              Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

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              @mik said in Considering the Jones Act...:

              @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

              How do you like them electric vehicles now?

              Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

              Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

              👆

              I love electric cars. I think they're definitely where we need to be headed. It's the future.

              But it sure as hell ain't the present. They're still all kinds of impractical for so many use cases.

              Anecdotally: perspective is an interesting thing. A lot of crazy shit went down for me last year—COVID worries of course but I wish that's all it was. Anyways, keeping my car running and in working order wasn't exactly top-of-mind for oh, say, 9 months or so. I just got it back from the shop. It needed brake pads, rotors, a transmission flush (it actually did need this), an oil change (1k and about 6 months overdue), an alignment, some kind of front axle thing, a new front windshield, and some electrical work so that my headlights would work again.

              Not cheap. But it's a CRV with about 150k on it. The hope is, (1) this will get me to about 230k or so, and (2) I'm driving a LOT less than I used to, so instead of a year or two, I might be able to keep it for another five if I'm lucky.

              Please love yourself.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

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                Loki
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                @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

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                  I just filled the tank after reading this - it can't hurt. I think we get our gas from elsewhere, but I figured it's better to buy in case they jack the price up.

                  I was only joking

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                    Yeah, it really only affects up to NYC I think.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                      $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                        $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

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                        @jolly said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                        I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                        $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

                        The price at Costco was $2.79, most of the regular stations are between $2.89 and $3.05.

                        @89th @Aqua-Letifer @Copper The Chantilly Costco line was all the way back to Rt. 50 when I left. Sterling Costco was shut down for a while by the police because the parking lot was impassable and they were creating a hazard on 7 East and Cascades.

                        The Brad

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                          I heard there are big lines around here, I haven't looked yet.

                          I think I put fewer than 1,000 miles on my car in the last year.

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                            The mass hysteria over events that will pass really should be studied, not that the results will change behavior but at least we will understand why we behave that way.

                            Interrupting your day to save twenty cents a gallon and stopping at Starbucks for the known wait is pretty funny when you think about it.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                              $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

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                              @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                              @89th @Aqua-Letifer @Copper The Chantilly Costco line was all the way back to Rt. 50 when I left.

                              I can picture that

                              My plan is to never see anything like that again

                              I never bought the Chantilly Costco gas, I thought of those pumps as something new and never got around to trying them. But I did spend a lot of time in that Costco.

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @jolly said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                                $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

                                The price at Costco was $2.79, most of the regular stations are between $2.89 and $3.05.

                                @89th @Aqua-Letifer @Copper The Chantilly Costco line was all the way back to Rt. 50 when I left. Sterling Costco was shut down for a while by the police because the parking lot was impassable and they were creating a hazard on 7 East and Cascades.

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                                @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                @89th @Aqua-Letifer @Copper The Chantilly Costco line was all the way back to Rt. 50 when I left. Sterling Costco was shut down for a while by the police because the parking lot was impassable and they were creating a hazard on 7 East and Cascades.

                                Calm, cool, and collected. That's exactly what comes to mind when I think of NoVa people. Especially while driving.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  No lines for gas here.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                    How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                    Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                    I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

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                                    @loki said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                    @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                    How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                    Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                    I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

                                    I think the supply chain runs a lot thinner than you guys think. There may be a strategic reserve of some size, but on the consumer end? Not much more than a week. Most people fill their tanks once a week. How long has the pipeline been down? Coming up on a week. Over 40% of Virginia’s gas stations are empty, and I did not see anybody there filling up tankers. It was all personal vehicles. I doubt much hoarding is happening, and is it panic buying when you need gas and stations are running out with the earliest possible relief still 4 days away at the soonest?

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @loki said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                      @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                      How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                      Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                      I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

                                      I think the supply chain runs a lot thinner than you guys think. There may be a strategic reserve of some size, but on the consumer end? Not much more than a week. Most people fill their tanks once a week. How long has the pipeline been down? Coming up on a week. Over 40% of Virginia’s gas stations are empty, and I did not see anybody there filling up tankers. It was all personal vehicles. I doubt much hoarding is happening, and is it panic buying when you need gas and stations are running out with the earliest possible relief still 4 days away at the soonest?

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                                      @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                      @loki said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                      @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                      How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                      Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                      I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

                                      I think the supply chain runs a lot thinner than you guys think. There may be a strategic reserve of some size, but on the consumer end? Not much more than a week. Most people fill their tanks once a week. How long has the pipeline been down? Coming up on a week. Over 40% of Virginia’s gas stations are empty, and I did not see anybody there filling up tankers. It was all personal vehicles. I doubt much hoarding is happening, and is it panic buying when you need gas and stations are running out with the earliest possible relief still 4 days away at the soonest?

                                      You could be right but is this bigger than the Suez Canal problem? It went from catastrophe to nothing burger.

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                                        No lines here either. $2.38 at Costco Monday.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          You know, I hate it when the tree fell on my 500 gallon skid tank...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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