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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #3

    Trucks can't do it. As the article talks about, even our American flagged ships can't do it.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Copper

      That pipeline runs just a few feet from my old neighborhood and feeds fuel to Dulles airport directly.

      It is going to take a lot of trucks to replace that.

      ![alt text](637aa1a4-027c-47cf-8d7f-3b240f16c203-image.png image url)

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #4

      I just sat in a line at a gas station for 40 minutes.1977 all over again.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        I just sat in a line at a gas station for 40 minutes.1977 all over again.

        AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
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        #5

        @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

        1977 all over again.

        Reminiscing the good times when you sat in the baby car seat?

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

          1977 all over again.

          Reminiscing the good times when you sat in the baby car seat?

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #6

          @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

          @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

          1977 all over again.

          Reminiscing the good times when you sat in the baby car seat?

          You think I rode in a car seat?! LMFAO! I was sitting in the front seat between my parents straddling the drive shaft and holding the ashtray for my parents...

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

            @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

            1977 all over again.

            Reminiscing the good times when you sat in the baby car seat?

            You think I rode in a car seat?! LMFAO! I was sitting in the front seat between my parents straddling the drive shaft and holding the ashtray for my parents...

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            George K
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            @lufins-dad said in Considering the Jones Act...:

            I was sitting in the front seat between my parents straddling the drive shaft and holding the ashtray for my parents..

            Bushwa.

            Cars in 1977 had built-in ashtrays.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              Lots of gas stations around here starting to run out. Relatively speaking. About 10% of gas stations are dry, I bet it’s 50% by the end of tomorrow.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                #9

                Oh well, gives folks practice for the new Green Economy...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  I am in line at Costco again with vehicle number 2. 25 minutes so far...

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #11

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                    The Brad

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      alt text

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #13

                        Lol, the problem is this isn’t panic buying for me... Just out of gas...

                        The Brad

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                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                          How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                          Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
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                            It amazes me that they don't have a more robust disaster recovery plan in place.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                              Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                              MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                              How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                              Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                              Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

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                                @mik said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                Bullshit. You can carry oil by rail or truck. Not so electricity.

                                👆

                                I love electric cars. I think they're definitely where we need to be headed. It's the future.

                                But it sure as hell ain't the present. They're still all kinds of impractical for so many use cases.

                                Anecdotally: perspective is an interesting thing. A lot of crazy shit went down for me last year—COVID worries of course but I wish that's all it was. Anyways, keeping my car running and in working order wasn't exactly top-of-mind for oh, say, 9 months or so. I just got it back from the shop. It needed brake pads, rotors, a transmission flush (it actually did need this), an oil change (1k and about 6 months overdue), an alignment, some kind of front axle thing, a new front windshield, and some electrical work so that my headlights would work again.

                                Not cheap. But it's a CRV with about 150k on it. The hope is, (1) this will get me to about 230k or so, and (2) I'm driving a LOT less than I used to, so instead of a year or two, I might be able to keep it for another five if I'm lucky.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                  Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #18

                                  @axtremus said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                  How do you like them electric vehicles now?

                                  Srsly, though, I think this pipeline thing will be resolved in a few days. Sucks if you are already running out of gas now, but my guess is that supply and pricing should come back to normal ranges in a few days to a week's time. It's computer software problem, not hardware infrastructure damage, so fixing it should be relatively quick.

                                  I think you are 100% right. No way to stop the hoarding of gas though so in the short run we will be inundated with pictures of gas lines and talk of 1970’s redux. It’s a personal choice if you want to watch or do something else.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    I just filled the tank after reading this - it can't hurt. I think we get our gas from elsewhere, but I figured it's better to buy in case they jack the price up.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
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                                      Yeah, it really only affects up to NYC I think.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Jolly
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                                        I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                                        $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                                          $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @jolly said in Considering the Jones Act...:

                                          I had to buy gas this morning. It's always higher out here than in town.

                                          $2.72/gallon, Shell regular, no waiting. Of course, all of ours is trucked in.

                                          The price at Costco was $2.79, most of the regular stations are between $2.89 and $3.05.

                                          @89th @Aqua-Letifer @Copper The Chantilly Costco line was all the way back to Rt. 50 when I left. Sterling Costco was shut down for a while by the police because the parking lot was impassable and they were creating a hazard on 7 East and Cascades.

                                          The Brad

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