No more fact-checking.
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Would y'all please quit ragging on Ax's Paper Of Record...
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Nah, the Washington Post is Mr. Jeff Bezos' paper of record.
What? You think WaPo did a great job with their Trump fact-checking database that you want them to keep doing it for Biden?
If you think WaPo did a lousy job with their previous fact-checking database, then you should be happy that the WaPo stopped doing it altogether.
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@axtremus said in No more fact-checking.:
If you think WaPo did a lousy job with their previous fact-checking database, then you should be happy that the WaPo stopped doing it altogether.
No, I wish we had real fact checkers that would check real facts. Snopes is only good for urban myths. Every fact checker I know of regarding politics or culture sucks.
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@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
No, I wish we had real fact checkers that would check real facts.
The snarky answer I could give would be that well, you actually don't, though.
But I think it's more accurate to say that Sir Tim Berners Lee unwittingly ruined it for the lot of us. We used to think nothing of $50, $100 or even $150 magazine subscriptions, but the internet is so ridiculously free that we scoff at paying $0.50 for one freaking article.
Blogs are free. Social media's also free. That can happen because digital media distribution costs basically nothing, and so the content can be created entirely by some dude pontificating in his living room. Sure, news agencies used to have researchers, fact checkers, editors, proofreaders, photographers and entire legal teams. But they can't compete with free content, so everyone got laid off. First the ax came for proofers and fact-checkers, but today, a ton of "journalists" don't even do what they do full-time because those jobs don't exist anymore, they get paid per piece and it's not nearly enough to make a living.
The more we care about quality reporting, the better quality reporting we're going to get. Right now we're at the point where we'll bitch about it, but still not fork over that $0.50. It might get better over time but it's going to take a long while.
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Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
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@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
89th doesn't care.
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@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
“If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
“If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.
89th doesn't care.
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
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I loved his unfiltered candor. I didn’t love the constant flow of lies or false claims. “Many people have told me...” or “I’ve heard...” or “believe me”. I actually think he’s done that for so many years he doesn’t even realize when he’s making shit up. Almost one of those “I will make my own reality” similar to Steve Jobs’ use of a reality distortion field (RDF) to convince others around him of things.
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Andy McCarthy enumerates Biden's lies from last night: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/04/bidens-dishonest-sales-pitch/
- He insinuated that the ten-year ban on assault weapons had reduced the murder rate in the U.S. — something neither careful studies nor a casual look at the trends supports.
- He pretended that the Trump administration had ended successful efforts to control migration across our southern border, a brazen inversion of the truth.
- He claimed that the country supports federal legislation that would, among other things, ban states from verifying voters are who they say they are.
- He promised that Medicare could save hundreds of billions of dollars by cracking down on drugmakers. Not according to the Congressional Budget Office, it can’t.
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@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
They're a liberal rag because that's a very effective way to win the attention game.
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@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up. I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.
I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
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@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.
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@mik said in No more fact-checking.:
@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.
Technology changes money dried up whatever you call this current crap.