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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

    First 100 days:

    Biden: 67 false claims
    Trump: 511 false claims

    Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

    8,859 false claims.

    Woof that is exhausting.

    You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

    JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #10

    @lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:

    @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

    First 100 days:

    Biden: 67 false claims
    Trump: 511 false claims

    Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

    8,859 false claims.

    Woof that is exhausting.

    You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

    89th doesn't care.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

      First 100 days:

      Biden: 67 false claims
      Trump: 511 false claims

      Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

      8,859 false claims.

      Woof that is exhausting.

      You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

      89th8 Online
      89th8 Online
      89th
      wrote on last edited by
      #11

      @lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:

      @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

      First 100 days:

      Biden: 67 false claims
      Trump: 511 false claims

      Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

      8,859 false claims.

      Woof that is exhausting.

      You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

      “If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.

      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
      • 89th8 89th

        @lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:

        @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

        First 100 days:

        Biden: 67 false claims
        Trump: 511 false claims

        Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

        8,859 false claims.

        Woof that is exhausting.

        You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

        “If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #12

        @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

        @lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:

        @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

        First 100 days:

        Biden: 67 false claims
        Trump: 511 false claims

        Oh and Trump’s last 100 days?

        8,859 false claims.

        Woof that is exhausting.

        You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?

        “If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.

        89th doesn't care.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • 89th8 Online
          89th8 Online
          89th
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          #13

          I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

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          • 89th8 89th

            I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

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            Jolly
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            #14

            @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

            I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

            Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

            Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 89th8 Online
              89th8 Online
              89th
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              I loved his unfiltered candor. I didn’t love the constant flow of lies or false claims. “Many people have told me...” or “I’ve heard...” or “believe me”. I actually think he’s done that for so many years he doesn’t even realize when he’s making shit up. Almost one of those “I will make my own reality” similar to Steve Jobs’ use of a reality distortion field (RDF) to convince others around him of things.

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                Andy McCarthy enumerates Biden's lies from last night: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/04/bidens-dishonest-sales-pitch/

                1. He insinuated that the ten-year ban on assault weapons had reduced the murder rate in the U.S. — something neither careful studies nor a casual look at the trends supports.
                2. He pretended that the Trump administration had ended successful efforts to control migration across our southern border, a brazen inversion of the truth.
                3. He claimed that the country supports federal legislation that would, among other things, ban states from verifying voters are who they say they are.
                4. He promised that Medicare could save hundreds of billions of dollars by cracking down on drugmakers. Not according to the Congressional Budget Office, it can’t.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • KincaidK Kincaid

                  @aqua-letifer

                  Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:

                  @aqua-letifer

                  Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

                  They're a liberal rag because that's a very effective way to win the attention game.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                    I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                    Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                    Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #18

                    @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                    @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                    I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                    Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                    Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                    Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                    I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • KincaidK Kincaid

                      @aqua-letifer

                      Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #19

                      @kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:

                      @aqua-letifer

                      Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

                      Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:

                        @aqua-letifer

                        Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

                        Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.

                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #20

                        @mik said in No more fact-checking.:

                        @kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:

                        @aqua-letifer

                        Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.

                        Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.

                        Technology changes 👉 money dried up 👉 whatever you call this current crap.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                          #21

                          Oh, no doubt. We are in a sea change in media. Impossible to make money without pandering.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                            @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                            I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                            Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                            Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                            Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                            I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #22

                            @aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:

                            @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                            @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                            I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                            Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                            Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                            Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                            I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                            Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.

                            Link to video

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:

                              @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                              @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                              I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                              Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                              Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                              Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                              I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                              Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.

                              Link to video

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                              @aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:

                              @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                              @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                              I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                              Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                              Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                              Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                              I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                              Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.

                              Link to video

                              😆 Ironically that is the one point in which we are definitely in accord!

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • MikM Offline
                                MikM Offline
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                Such a great movie.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @jolly said in No more fact-checking.:

                                  @89th said in No more fact-checking.:

                                  I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.

                                  Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.

                                  Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.

                                  Dude give it up. 😄 I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                                  I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.

                                  CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
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                                  #25

                                  @aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:

                                  I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.

                                  Maybe not integrity, but certainly honesty, I'm sure everyone agrees on that.

                                  He tried to do what he said he would do. There is no question.

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                                    George K
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                                    #26

                                    WSJ reveals another lie:

                                    https://www.wsj.com/articles/facts-check-biden-11619714351?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

                                    The Biden fairy tale is that the U.S. was in an economic crisis when he took office. He began telling this tall tale even before taking the job. Joining with former presidential campaign rival Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vermont’s most famous Marxist, Mr. Biden last year formed a legion of gloom to justify the historic government expansions to come.

                                    But then as now, government data keeps exposing the Biden distortion. Today the Commerce Department reports that during the first quarter when the Biden administration began, the U.S. economy was soaring. “Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 6.4 percent in the first quarter of 2021,” according to the advance estimate released by Commerce’s Bureau of Economic Analysis. This follows growth of more than 4% in the fourth quarter of last year and a rip-roaring 33.4% in the third.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      #27

                                      USA Today:

                                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/29/fact-check-joe-bidens-first-speech-congress/4886570001/

                                      Biden said he inherited the “worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.” But when he took office, the economy had recovered some from its low point earlier in the pandemic.

                                      He repeated the debunked claim that he had “traveled over 17,000 miles” with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
                                      Biden referred to the American Jobs Plan creating “millions of jobs” and generating “trillions of dollars in economic growth.” The jobs estimate is accurate, but economic growth projections are mixed.

                                      The president said he is “restoring the program” to address the causes of migration from Northern Triangle countries that “the last administration decided … was not worth it.” Although funding for the initiative declined and was delayed during the Trump administration, it wasn’t completely eliminated, as Biden’s remark may have suggested.

                                      Biden said the “vast majority” of the “over 11 million undocumented folks” in the U.S. overstayed a visa. But immigration experts estimate that most people living in the U.S. illegally crossed the southern border without authorization.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Such a great movie.

                                        JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        @mik said in No more fact-checking.:

                                        Such a great movie.

                                        One of the best Star Trek movies...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          USA Today:

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/29/fact-check-joe-bidens-first-speech-congress/4886570001/

                                          Biden said he inherited the “worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.” But when he took office, the economy had recovered some from its low point earlier in the pandemic.

                                          He repeated the debunked claim that he had “traveled over 17,000 miles” with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
                                          Biden referred to the American Jobs Plan creating “millions of jobs” and generating “trillions of dollars in economic growth.” The jobs estimate is accurate, but economic growth projections are mixed.

                                          The president said he is “restoring the program” to address the causes of migration from Northern Triangle countries that “the last administration decided … was not worth it.” Although funding for the initiative declined and was delayed during the Trump administration, it wasn’t completely eliminated, as Biden’s remark may have suggested.

                                          Biden said the “vast majority” of the “over 11 million undocumented folks” in the U.S. overstayed a visa. But immigration experts estimate that most people living in the U.S. illegally crossed the southern border without authorization.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @george-k said in No more fact-checking.:

                                          USA Today:

                                          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/29/fact-check-joe-bidens-first-speech-congress/4886570001/

                                          Biden said he inherited the “worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.” But when he took office, the economy had recovered some from its low point earlier in the pandemic.

                                          He repeated the debunked claim that he had “traveled over 17,000 miles” with Chinese President Xi Jinping.
                                          Biden referred to the American Jobs Plan creating “millions of jobs” and generating “trillions of dollars in economic growth.” The jobs estimate is accurate, but economic growth projections are mixed.

                                          The president said he is “restoring the program” to address the causes of migration from Northern Triangle countries that “the last administration decided … was not worth it.” Although funding for the initiative declined and was delayed during the Trump administration, it wasn’t completely eliminated, as Biden’s remark may have suggested.

                                          Biden said the “vast majority” of the “over 11 million undocumented folks” in the U.S. overstayed a visa. But immigration experts estimate that most people living in the U.S. illegally crossed the southern border without authorization.

                                          By WaPo standards, that means Biden lied 6,016,500 times in that speech.

                                          The Brad

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