No more fact-checking.
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@axtremus said in No more fact-checking.:
If you think WaPo did a lousy job with their previous fact-checking database, then you should be happy that the WaPo stopped doing it altogether.
No, I wish we had real fact checkers that would check real facts. Snopes is only good for urban myths. Every fact checker I know of regarding politics or culture sucks.
@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
No, I wish we had real fact checkers that would check real facts.
The snarky answer I could give would be that well, you actually don't, though.
But I think it's more accurate to say that Sir Tim Berners Lee unwittingly ruined it for the lot of us. We used to think nothing of $50, $100 or even $150 magazine subscriptions, but the internet is so ridiculously free that we scoff at paying $0.50 for one freaking article.
Blogs are free. Social media's also free. That can happen because digital media distribution costs basically nothing, and so the content can be created entirely by some dude pontificating in his living room. Sure, news agencies used to have researchers, fact checkers, editors, proofreaders, photographers and entire legal teams. But they can't compete with free content, so everyone got laid off. First the ax came for proofers and fact-checkers, but today, a ton of "journalists" don't even do what they do full-time because those jobs don't exist anymore, they get paid per piece and it's not nearly enough to make a living.
The more we care about quality reporting, the better quality reporting we're going to get. Right now we're at the point where we'll bitch about it, but still not fork over that $0.50. It might get better over time but it's going to take a long while.
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@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
No, I wish we had real fact checkers that would check real facts.
The snarky answer I could give would be that well, you actually don't, though.
But I think it's more accurate to say that Sir Tim Berners Lee unwittingly ruined it for the lot of us. We used to think nothing of $50, $100 or even $150 magazine subscriptions, but the internet is so ridiculously free that we scoff at paying $0.50 for one freaking article.
Blogs are free. Social media's also free. That can happen because digital media distribution costs basically nothing, and so the content can be created entirely by some dude pontificating in his living room. Sure, news agencies used to have researchers, fact checkers, editors, proofreaders, photographers and entire legal teams. But they can't compete with free content, so everyone got laid off. First the ax came for proofers and fact-checkers, but today, a ton of "journalists" don't even do what they do full-time because those jobs don't exist anymore, they get paid per piece and it's not nearly enough to make a living.
The more we care about quality reporting, the better quality reporting we're going to get. Right now we're at the point where we'll bitch about it, but still not fork over that $0.50. It might get better over time but it's going to take a long while.
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
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First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
The Brad
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
89th doesn't care.
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
“If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.
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@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
“If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
@lufins-dad said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
First 100 days:
Biden: 67 false claims
Trump: 511 false claimsOh and Trump’s last 100 days?
8,859 false claims.
Woof that is exhausting.
You realize that most of those were actually 1 or 2 debatable claims that he repeated and stood by?
“If you repeat a lie enough, people will start to believe it.” And we saw the result.
89th doesn't care.
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I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I loved his unfiltered candor. I didn’t love the constant flow of lies or false claims. “Many people have told me...” or “I’ve heard...” or “believe me”. I actually think he’s done that for so many years he doesn’t even realize when he’s making shit up. Almost one of those “I will make my own reality” similar to Steve Jobs’ use of a reality distortion field (RDF) to convince others around him of things.
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Andy McCarthy enumerates Biden's lies from last night: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/04/bidens-dishonest-sales-pitch/
- He insinuated that the ten-year ban on assault weapons had reduced the murder rate in the U.S. — something neither careful studies nor a casual look at the trends supports.
- He pretended that the Trump administration had ended successful efforts to control migration across our southern border, a brazen inversion of the truth.
- He claimed that the country supports federal legislation that would, among other things, ban states from verifying voters are who they say they are.
- He promised that Medicare could save hundreds of billions of dollars by cracking down on drugmakers. Not according to the Congressional Budget Office, it can’t.
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Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
They're a liberal rag because that's a very effective way to win the attention game.
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@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
Please love yourself.
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Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.
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@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.
@mik said in No more fact-checking.:
@kincaid said in No more fact-checking.:
Well, if my local paper hadn't become a liberal rag I might still have a subscription lol.
Gannet? Same happened in Cincinnati. A once fine newspaper has been reduced to USA Today lite.
Technology changes
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@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
@aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:
@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.
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@aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:
@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.
Link to video@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:
@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
Son, I'm still pissed about the Civil War.
Link to video
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@jolly said in No more fact-checking.:
@89th said in No more fact-checking.:
I care about honesty. I think it’s important to be able to trust government leadership. Or at least, have some confidence that what they’re saying is true.
Then you should have loved Donald J. Trump.
Very few presidents have gone out and actually tried to do what they said they would do.
Dude give it up.
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of Trump or anything, but virtually no one's going to pick up what you're trying to throw down about him. He's a liar.
@aqua-letifer said in No more fact-checking.:
I can count on one hand the number of people I've ever heard of who thinks that Donald Trump is about honesty and integrity.
Maybe not integrity, but certainly honesty, I'm sure everyone agrees on that.
He tried to do what he said he would do. There is no question.
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WSJ reveals another lie:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/facts-check-biden-11619714351?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb
The Biden fairy tale is that the U.S. was in an economic crisis when he took office. He began telling this tall tale even before taking the job. Joining with former presidential campaign rival Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vermont’s most famous Marxist, Mr. Biden last year formed a legion of gloom to justify the historic government expansions to come.
But then as now, government data keeps exposing the Biden distortion. Today the Commerce Department reports that during the first quarter when the Biden administration began, the U.S. economy was soaring. “Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 6.4 percent in the first quarter of 2021,” according to the advance estimate released by Commerce’s Bureau of Economic Analysis. This follows growth of more than 4% in the fourth quarter of last year and a rip-roaring 33.4% in the third.
