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"Requesting permission to chase suspect."

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.

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    George K
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    #13

    @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

    most violent and dangerous city

    Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

    In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

      most violent and dangerous city

      Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

      In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

      Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
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      #14

      @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

      @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

      most violent and dangerous city

      Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

      In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

      If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

        @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

        most violent and dangerous city

        Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

        In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

        https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

        If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.

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        @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

        Ball'mer is enough

        Erich winked.

        alt text

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

          Ball'mer is enough

          Erich winked.

          alt text

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

          @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

          Ball'mer is enough

          Erich winked.

          alt text

          He'd know!

          Please love yourself.

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          • George KG George K

            @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

            most violent and dangerous city

            Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

            In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

            @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

            most violent and dangerous city

            Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

            In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

            I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

            https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3

            The Brad

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              Milwaukee isn't cheddar heads.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                most violent and dangerous city

                Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

                I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

                https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3

                George KG Offline
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                George K
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                @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

                Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on last edited by kluurs
                  #20

                  I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.

                  In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.

                    In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @kluurs said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                    type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement

                    I absolutely agree with the need for more training. The cosmetologist example is one that I’ve used before.

                    I might disagree about the best candidate, though. It seems to me that the police has too many Special Forces want to be’s in it. The police aren’t soldiers and we shouldn’t necessarily look for soldiers to fill those roles.

                    The Brad

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

                      The Brad

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

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                        @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                        I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                        Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

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                          @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                          It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

                          That's the point I tried to make. I wouldn't want to recruit SF folks for police - but rather people of that caliber to be police.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.

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                            @mik said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                            If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.

                            Chicago twice had it's shopping district trashed last year. There was criticism of the lack of action on the part of police. It sounds like now that inaction will be the policy moving forward.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                              I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                              Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

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                              @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                              @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                              I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                              Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                              I’m talking about car chases.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                                I’m talking about car chases.

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                                @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                                I’m talking about car chases.

                                Same

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