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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:14 last edited by jon-nyc
    #8

    I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Loki
      wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:20 last edited by
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      In my youth I escaped every time. Some people I knew got caught every time. You have to know which camp you fall into and behave accordingly.

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        Mik
        wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:34 last edited by
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        I know. There were people who are just not cut out for the outlaw life. Thankfully my daughter is one of those.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 20:52 last edited by
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          The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.

          The Brad

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          • L LuFins Dad
            22 Apr 2021, 20:52

            The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.

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            Copper
            wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 20:55 last edited by
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            @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

            The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.

            All gang members?

            Or just a specific type?

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            • L LuFins Dad
              22 Apr 2021, 20:52

              The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.

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              George K
              wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 21:07 last edited by
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              @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

              most violent and dangerous city

              Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

              In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

              https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                22 Apr 2021, 21:07

                @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                most violent and dangerous city

                Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:15 last edited by
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                @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                most violent and dangerous city

                Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

                If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.

                Please love yourself.

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                  22 Apr 2021, 22:15

                  @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                  @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                  most violent and dangerous city

                  Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                  In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                  https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

                  If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:24 last edited by
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                  @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                  Ball'mer is enough

                  Erich winked.

                  alt text

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    22 Apr 2021, 22:24

                    @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                    Ball'mer is enough

                    Erich winked.

                    alt text

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:29 last edited by
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                    @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                    @aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                    Ball'mer is enough

                    Erich winked.

                    alt text

                    He'd know!

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • G George K
                      22 Apr 2021, 21:07

                      @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                      most violent and dangerous city

                      Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                      In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                      https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:30 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                      @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                      most violent and dangerous city

                      Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                      In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                      https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

                      I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

                      https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3

                      The Brad

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:32 last edited by
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                        Milwaukee isn't cheddar heads.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          22 Apr 2021, 22:30

                          @george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                          @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                          most violent and dangerous city

                          Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.

                          In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.

                          https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

                          I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

                          https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3

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                          George K
                          wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:37 last edited by
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                          @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                          But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.

                          Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:04 last edited by kluurs
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                            I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.

                            In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?

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                              23 Apr 2021, 00:04

                              I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.

                              In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:35 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                              type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement

                              I absolutely agree with the need for more training. The cosmetologist example is one that I’ve used before.

                              I might disagree about the best candidate, though. It seems to me that the police has too many Special Forces want to be’s in it. The police aren’t soldiers and we shouldn’t necessarily look for soldiers to fill those roles.

                              The Brad

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:36 last edited by
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                                It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

                                The Brad

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                                  22 Apr 2021, 19:14

                                  I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:37 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                  I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                  Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

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                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    23 Apr 2021, 00:36

                                    It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

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                                    kluurs
                                    wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 01:02 last edited by
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                                    @lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                    It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.

                                    That's the point I tried to make. I wouldn't want to recruit SF folks for police - but rather people of that caliber to be police.

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                                    • M Mik
                                      22 Apr 2021, 15:39

                                      If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.

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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 01:07 last edited by
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                                      @mik said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                      If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.

                                      Chicago twice had it's shopping district trashed last year. There was criticism of the lack of action on the part of police. It sounds like now that inaction will be the policy moving forward.

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                                        23 Apr 2021, 00:37

                                        @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                        I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                        Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 03:10 last edited by
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                                        @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                        @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                        I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                        Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                                        I’m talking about car chases.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          23 Apr 2021, 03:10

                                          @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                          @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                          I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                          Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                                          I’m talking about car chases.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 03:11 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                          @89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                          @jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":

                                          I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.

                                          Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.

                                          I’m talking about car chases.

                                          Same

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