"Requesting permission to chase suspect."
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:29 last edited by
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
Ball'mer is enough
Erich winked.
He'd know!
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:30 last edited by@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:32 last edited by
Milwaukee isn't cheddar heads.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
I’m talking Murder. Click-Bang... I don’t count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:37 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:04 last edited by kluurs
I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
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I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:35 last edited by@kluurs said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement
I absolutely agree with the need for more training. The cosmetologist example is one that I’ve used before.
I might disagree about the best candidate, though. It seems to me that the police has too many Special Forces want to be’s in it. The police aren’t soldiers and we shouldn’t necessarily look for soldiers to fill those roles.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:36 last edited by
It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.
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I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.
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It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 01:02 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldn’t cut it as a police officer.
That's the point I tried to make. I wouldn't want to recruit SF folks for police - but rather people of that caliber to be police.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 01:07 last edited by
@mik said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.
Chicago twice had it's shopping district trashed last year. There was criticism of the lack of action on the part of police. It sounds like now that inaction will be the policy moving forward.
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@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 03:10 last edited by@89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.
I’m talking about car chases.
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@89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.
I’m talking about car chases.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 03:11 last edited by@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@89th said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! I’m just one for one. Gotta up my game.
I’m talking about car chases.
Same