"Requesting permission to chase suspect."
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I agree. No more chasing suspects that attempt to escape. At that point you have to assume that they are an immediate danger and threat. Shoot.
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
The Brad
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
All gang members?
Or just a specific type?
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
Ball'mer is enough
Erich winked.
He'd know!
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
Iām talking Murder. Click-Bang... I donāt count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
The Brad
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
Iām talking Murder. Click-Bang... I donāt count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.
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I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
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I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
@kluurs said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement
I absolutely agree with the need for more training. The cosmetologist example is one that Iāve used before.
I might disagree about the best candidate, though. It seems to me that the police has too many Special Forces want to beās in it. The police arenāt soldiers and we shouldnāt necessarily look for soldiers to fill those roles.
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It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
The Brad
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I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
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It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
That's the point I tried to make. I wouldn't want to recruit SF folks for police - but rather people of that caliber to be police.
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@mik said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
If I were a Chicago thug and read this I would laugh my ass off. Assuming I could read.
Chicago twice had it's shopping district trashed last year. There was criticism of the lack of action on the part of police. It sounds like now that inaction will be the policy moving forward.
