"Requesting permission to chase suspect."
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 16:30 last edited by
idiots
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:28 last edited by
I agree. No more chasing suspects that attempt to escape. At that point you have to assume that they are an immediate danger and threat. Shoot.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 17:39 last edited by
Having run from cops at night a couple times, I have to object to that position.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:14 last edited by jon-nyc
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:20 last edited by
In my youth I escaped every time. Some people I knew got caught every time. You have to know which camp you fall into and behave accordingly.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 19:34 last edited by
I know. There were people who are just not cut out for the outlaw life. Thankfully my daughter is one of those.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 20:52 last edited by
The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 20:55 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
All gang members?
Or just a specific type?
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The mayor of the most violent and dangerous city in the world just told the gang members to not submit to an arrest. If they run, they are free and clear.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 21:07 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:15 last edited by@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
If those places are truly, statistically, worse than Baltimore, you bet your ass I'm never going to visit. Ball'mer is enough, thanks.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:29 last edited by
@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@aqua-letifer said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
Ball'mer is enough
Erich winked.
He'd know!
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@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:30 last edited by@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
Iām talking Murder. Click-Bang... I donāt count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
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wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:32 last edited by
Milwaukee isn't cheddar heads.
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@george-k said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
most violent and dangerous city
Per capita in the US, I believe that's St. Louis for all violent crime. Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, Milwaukee (!), Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis, Nashville, and New Orleans have more than Chicago.
In the world, Los Cabos, Caracas, Acapulco, Natal, Tijuana, La Paz etc, all have more murders, per capita. The first US city, at #13, is St. Louis.
Iām talking Murder. Click-Bang... I donāt count a bunch of cheddar heads getting drunk and into a fight as dangerous... But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/top-10-u-s-cities-with-highest-murders-in-2020-877995/3
wrote on 22 Apr 2021, 22:37 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
But it still goes on the books as a violent crime.
Yeah, Chicago certainly holds the record in absolute number. Per capita, not so much.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:04 last edited by kluurs
I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
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I still believe the answer as better selection of officers - which requires making the profession an attractive one for the type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement dollars.
In Illinois, one is required to take 1,500 hours of training to become a cosmetologist versus 520 to become a police officer. Make sense?
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:35 last edited by@kluurs said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
type of people who might otherwise become Navy Seals, and secondly, providing rigorous training both initially and ongoing. In most states, cosmetologists and barbers require more training. Police work is far more demanding and important - and mistakes are expensive - both in lives lost and in settlement
I absolutely agree with the need for more training. The cosmetologist example is one that Iāve used before.
I might disagree about the best candidate, though. It seems to me that the police has too many Special Forces want to beās in it. The police arenāt soldiers and we shouldnāt necessarily look for soldiers to fill those roles.
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wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:36 last edited by
It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
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I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 00:37 last edited by@jon-nyc said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
I'm 3 for 3 in escaping cops by car. Next time I'm drunk-posting coax the stories out of me.
Lol! Iām just one for one. Gotta up my game.
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It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
wrote on 23 Apr 2021, 01:02 last edited by@lufins-dad said in "Requesting permission to chase suspect.":
It would be nice if Special Forces were filled with the guys that couldnāt cut it as a police officer.
That's the point I tried to make. I wouldn't want to recruit SF folks for police - but rather people of that caliber to be police.