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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #26

    From that same CNN piece:

    More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

    You were warned.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      From that same CNN piece:

      More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

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      #27

      @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

      From that same CNN piece:

      More than 100 other police officers were injured in the melee last month, including at least 15 who required hospitalization, according to court documents.

      Just to clarify, as of yesterday did you think he was hit with a fire extinguisher?

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        #28

        I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

        You were warned.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

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          @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

          I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

          Absolutely. Investigators have discounted and moved on to other theories. I will admit I didn’t know either.

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            @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

            I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

            Absolutely. Investigators have discounted and moved on to other theories. I will admit I didn’t know either.

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            jon-nyc
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            #30

            I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

            You were warned.

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              See the video here - look for the extinguisher at 0:20

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/video-shows-rioter-throw-fire-extinguisher-at-police-during-capitol-attack/2021/01/14/1e75a543-7c61-43f2-a710-37edde925c0f_video.html

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                See the video here - look for the extinguisher at 0:20

                https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/video-shows-rioter-throw-fire-extinguisher-at-police-during-capitol-attack/2021/01/14/1e75a543-7c61-43f2-a710-37edde925c0f_video.html

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                #32

                I wonder how many of those vermin assaulting the cops posted blue lives matter memes on social media last summer.

                You were warned.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                  I've only read that he wasn't killed by blunt force trauma. I've not seen any source contradicting the testimony that he was hit.

                  Quote from his Mom:

                  She said, ‘He wasn’t hit on the head no. We think he had a stroke, but we don’t know anything for sure.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

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                    @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                    I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

                    From the article I cited:

                    In the hours after Officer Sicknick was rushed to the hospital, officials initially said that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher. They later said that there was no evidence to support that he had died from any blunt force trauma. More recently, F.B.I. officials homed in on the potential role of an irritant as a primary factor in his death.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                      I haven't seen anything contradicting the testimony, have you?

                      From the article I cited:

                      In the hours after Officer Sicknick was rushed to the hospital, officials initially said that he had been struck with a fire extinguisher. They later said that there was no evidence to support that he had died from any blunt force trauma. More recently, F.B.I. officials homed in on the potential role of an irritant as a primary factor in his death.

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                      #35

                      @george-k Right - like I said, I had seen reports that he didn't die from it, but none contradicting the testimony that he was hit. His mother says he wasn't hit on the head. But I don't know if the original testimony was specific as to where he was hit.

                      You were warned.

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                        Horace
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                        #36

                        You should start hitting the bear spray aspect, jon. It's of greater rhetorical value, and probably closer to the truth.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @george-k Right - like I said, I had seen reports that he didn't die from it, but none contradicting the testimony that he was hit. His mother says he wasn't hit on the head. But I don't know if the original testimony was specific as to where he was hit.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                          @george-k Right - like I said, I had seen reports that he didn't die from it, but none contradicting the testimony that he was hit. His mother says he wasn't hit on the head. But I don't know if the original testimony was specific as to where he was hit.

                          She saw him Jon. You going to discount a Mom’s account??? Maybe it nearly grazed him?

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                            You should start hitting the bear spray aspect, jon. It's of greater rhetorical value, and probably closer to the truth.

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                            @horace said in Stroke?:

                            You should start hitting the bear spray aspect, jon. It's of greater rhetorical value, and probably closer to the truth.

                            Why? So some Trump apologist can indignantly demand an apology if they find out it was 'only' pepper spray?

                            You were warned.

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                              @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                              @george-k Right - like I said, I had seen reports that he didn't die from it, but none contradicting the testimony that he was hit. His mother says he wasn't hit on the head. But I don't know if the original testimony was specific as to where he was hit.

                              She saw him Jon. You going to discount a Mom’s account??? Maybe it nearly grazed him?

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @loki No I'm taking it as gospel.

                              You were warned.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @horace said in Stroke?:

                                You should start hitting the bear spray aspect, jon. It's of greater rhetorical value, and probably closer to the truth.

                                Why? So some Trump apologist can indignantly demand an apology if they find out it was 'only' pepper spray?

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                                #40

                                @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                @horace said in Stroke?:

                                You should start hitting the bear spray aspect, jon. It's of greater rhetorical value, and probably closer to the truth.

                                Why? So some Trump apologist can indignantly demand an apology if they find out it was 'only' pepper spray?

                                Because it's closer to the truth.

                                Btw "demanding an apology" from you is a funny concept.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  The CNN report was no blunt force trauma. Not just to the head, anywhere. Arms, chest, legs, no indication...

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    The CNN report was no blunt force trauma. Not just to the head, anywhere. Arms, chest, legs, no indication...

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                                    @lufins-dad said in Stroke?:

                                    The CNN report was no blunt force trauma. Not just to the head, anywhere. Arms, chest, legs, no indication...

                                    I suspect that at best he was grazed by a fire extinguisher. (How great does "fire extinguisher" sound? What a fantastic thing to be able to relate to really drive home the point about how violent the mob was.)

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Probably was grazed with a selfie stick.

                                      You were warned.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Probably was grazed with a selfie stick.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Stroke?:

                                        Probably was grazed with a selfie stick.

                                        I'm telling you, bear spray is probably closer to the truth. You'll even find doctors to say that such things can induce strokes. It'll have story telling value, please trust me. I want you to succeed. Trump isn't dead yet.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          But what if it turns out to be pepper spray? Then I’ll have to deal with triumphant posters here celebrating the crowd’s vindication.

                                          You were warned.

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