Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/radicalism-post-trump-gop/619891/
Trumpism Has Entered Its Final Form
In today’s Republican Party, Trump is becoming what was once unthinkable—conventional, unexceptional, even something of an establishment figure.
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Two days later Alex Jones, the far-right radio host and conspiracy theorist Trump courted in 2016, rebuked Trump. After playing a clip of Trump declaring that the vaccines are working, Jones responded, “BS. Trump, that’s a lie. You’re not stupid.” Jones added, “Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay. At least you’re gonna get some good Republicans elected, and you know, we like ya. But my God. Maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass.”
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Ax, put aside your fixation on Trump for a minute and answer the question I've asked you three times now - are you still proud of Biden?
As for Trump, he just keeps on being proven right. The people he said would destroy the country ARE destroying the country. What do you think about how the democrat party is destroying the country, Ax?
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In a new CNN poll released Sunday, 59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican—36 percent indicated that it's "very important" and 23 percent "somewhat important."
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GOP Rep. Gonzalez of Ohio, one who voted to impeach Trump, announced that he will not seek re-election, citing “toxicity” within the GOP as a reason.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/us/politics/anthony-gonzalez-ohio-trump.html
”Representative Anthony Gonzalez, one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump, is the first of the group to retire rather than face a stiff primary challenge.”
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Answer my question, Ax.
What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?
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Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.
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Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.
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@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
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@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
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@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
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@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
Oddly enough, I pretty much agree with all of that.
I must admit, when I said 'Those who support Trump', you weren't somebody who sprang immediately to mind.
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The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
Well, that and his ego.
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Trump wants to depose McConnell, but the Senate GOP appears unwilling to go along.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-looks-for-challenger-to-depose-mitch-mcconnell-as-split-widens-11632060002
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Mr. Trump has spoken recently with senators and allies about trying to depose Mr. McConnell and whether any Republicans are interested in mounting a challenge, according to people familiar with the conversations. There is little appetite among Senate Republicans for such a plan, lawmakers and aides said, but the discussions risk driving a wedge deeper between the most influential figure in the Republican Party and its highest-ranking member in elected office.
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Trump Gets 58% Support of Republicans, Pence 13%, DeSantis 9% in 2024 Primary Poll
Marco Rubio and Nikki Haley tied for fourth place at three percent each.
But if Trump decides not to run, then Pence and DeSantis would move up to the first and second places, Ted Cruz would barge into the third place.
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Ax, your refusal to answer my question his actually answering my question. Even you can't find a reason to defend Biden. Even you realize Biden is an utter disaster. That's why you keep discussing Trump - gotta. Change the subject, huh.....
Let me tell you why Trump got elected and why he still is popular among republicans. He got elected to stop Hillary Clinton from getting in the White House. He got elected because most republicans, and a lot of democrats too, knew that Clinton was unfit for office and a danger to the nation. We didn't vote for him because we liked his tweets. We didn't vote for him because we liked his style. We voted for him because we could see that he was the only person who could defeat Hillary Clinton. We voted for him because your party, the democrat party, is a terrorist organization that hates America, and its follwers are by and large too stupid to understand it.
If China hadn't unleashed a pandemic on us, he would have won a second term and we wouldn't be facing what we are having to face today. Thanks to Biden and the democrat party. That's why I've been trying to get you to say on the record that you are proud of your president and your party. You can't say it. Biden and the democrat party are proving we were correct in supporting Trump. They are proving we were correct about Clinton, and we are correct about the democrat party. Thank you for continuously pointing out what a failed, dangerous political organization the democrats are by discussing the things real Americans did and continue to do in their attempt to stop your party from doing even more damage. Thanks for admitting that you can't find a single thing positive to say about Biden.
