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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #165

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/30/michigan-gop-trump-election-fraud-501701

    Michigan GOP cannot get “top-notch professionals” to work for them because …

    “From a staff and leadership perspective, I don’t know that top-notch professionals would want to go into this quagmire,” said Jeff Timmer, a former Michigan GOP executive director who opposed Trump. “Unless you’re going to talk crazy talk, they don’t want you there.”

    The “crazy talk” refers to denying the fact that Trump lost in 2020 election in Michigan.

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    • MikM Mik

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      #166

      @mik said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

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      And the beat goes on...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • AxtremusA Offline
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        Axtremus
        wrote on last edited by Axtremus
        #167

        The Republican Accountability Project.
        https://accountability.gop/

        The RAP?

        Looks like a new kid on the block. The RAP seems to focus on voting rights issues rather than being anti-Trump per se.

        It claims: “We are Republicans, former Republicans, and conservatives committed to protecting every American’s right to vote.”

        It issues “report cards” for elected GOP officials rating their track records on voting rights issues: https://accountability.gop/report-card/

        Their recent ad:

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #168

          alt text

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #169

            https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/radicalism-post-trump-gop/619891/

            Trumpism Has Entered Its Final Form
            In today’s Republican Party, Trump is becoming what was once unthinkable—conventional, unexceptional, even something of an establishment figure.
            …
            Two days later Alex Jones, the far-right radio host and conspiracy theorist Trump courted in 2016, rebuked Trump. After playing a clip of Trump declaring that the vaccines are working, Jones responded, “BS. Trump, that’s a lie. You’re not stupid.” Jones added, “Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay. At least you’re gonna get some good Republicans elected, and you know, we like ya. But my God. Maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass.”
            …

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            • LarryL Offline
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              Larry
              wrote on last edited by Larry
              #170

              Ax, put aside your fixation on Trump for a minute and answer the question I've asked you three times now - are you still proud of Biden?

              As for Trump, he just keeps on being proven right. The people he said would destroy the country ARE destroying the country. What do you think about how the democrat party is destroying the country, Ax?

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                Axtremus
                wrote on last edited by
                #171

                https://www.newsweek.com/59-gop-voters-say-believing-trump-won-2020-important-being-republican-poll-1628281

                In a new CNN poll released Sunday, 59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠—36 percent indicated that it's "very important" and 23 percent "somewhat important."

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                • LarryL Offline
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                  Larry
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #172

                  Answer my question, Ax.

                  What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    #173

                    GOP Rep. Gonzalez of Ohio, one who voted to impeach Trump, announced that he will not seek re-election, citing “toxicity” within the GOP as a reason.

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/us/politics/anthony-gonzalez-ohio-trump.html

                    ”Representative Anthony Gonzalez, one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump, is the first of the group to retire rather than face a stiff primary challenge.”

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                    • LarryL Larry

                      Answer my question, Ax.

                      What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      Answer my question, Ax.

                      What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Axtremus
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                        #175

                        https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/16/in-exclusive-interview-trump-calls-sept-18-rally-a-setup-says-gop-senate-should-fire-disaster-mcconnell/

                        Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/16/in-exclusive-interview-trump-calls-sept-18-rally-a-setup-says-gop-senate-should-fire-disaster-mcconnell/

                          Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.

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                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                          I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                          Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                            I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                            Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                            I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                            Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                            He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”

                            Trump always has disliked competition.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                              I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                              Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                              He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”

                              Trump always has disliked competition.

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #178

                              @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                              Trump always has disliked competition.

                              That's right - that's what Trump said.

                              However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                              @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                                Trump always has disliked competition.

                                That's right - that's what Trump said.

                                However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                                @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #179

                                @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                                Trump always has disliked competition.

                                That's right - that's what Trump said.

                                However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                                @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                                I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                                  Trump always has disliked competition.

                                  That's right - that's what Trump said.

                                  However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                                  @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                                  I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #180

                                  @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                  OK, I'll bite.

                                  There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                  McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #181

                                    The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.

                                    Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                    As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                      OK, I'll bite.

                                      There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                      McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #182

                                      @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                      OK, I'll bite.

                                      There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                      McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

                                      Oddly enough, I pretty much agree with all of that.

                                      I must admit, when I said 'Those who support Trump', you weren't somebody who sprang immediately to mind.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.

                                        Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                        As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #183

                                        @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                        Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                          Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

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                                          George K
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                                          #184

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

                                          Well, that and his ego.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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