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  • M Mik
    25 Jul 2021, 22:59

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    Jolly
    wrote on 30 Jul 2021, 14:12 last edited by Jolly
    #166

    @mik said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

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    And the beat goes on...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 15 Aug 2021, 11:38 last edited by Axtremus
      #167

      The Republican Accountability Project.
      https://accountability.gop/

      The RAP?

      Looks like a new kid on the block. The RAP seems to focus on voting rights issues rather than being anti-Trump per se.

      It claims: “We are Republicans, former Republicans, and conservatives committed to protecting every American’s right to vote.”

      It issues “report cards” for elected GOP officials rating their track records on voting rights issues: https://accountability.gop/report-card/

      Their recent ad:

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        Jolly
        wrote on 15 Aug 2021, 13:40 last edited by
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        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 30 Aug 2021, 00:06 last edited by
          #169

          https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/radicalism-post-trump-gop/619891/

          Trumpism Has Entered Its Final Form
          In today’s Republican Party, Trump is becoming what was once unthinkable—conventional, unexceptional, even something of an establishment figure.
          …
          Two days later Alex Jones, the far-right radio host and conspiracy theorist Trump courted in 2016, rebuked Trump. After playing a clip of Trump declaring that the vaccines are working, Jones responded, “BS. Trump, that’s a lie. You’re not stupid.” Jones added, “Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay. At least you’re gonna get some good Republicans elected, and you know, we like ya. But my God. Maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass.”
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            Larry
            wrote on 30 Aug 2021, 00:23 last edited by Larry
            #170

            Ax, put aside your fixation on Trump for a minute and answer the question I've asked you three times now - are you still proud of Biden?

            As for Trump, he just keeps on being proven right. The people he said would destroy the country ARE destroying the country. What do you think about how the democrat party is destroying the country, Ax?

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 12 Sept 2021, 23:06 last edited by
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              https://www.newsweek.com/59-gop-voters-say-believing-trump-won-2020-important-being-republican-poll-1628281

              In a new CNN poll released Sunday, 59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican⁠—36 percent indicated that it's "very important" and 23 percent "somewhat important."

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                Larry
                wrote on 12 Sept 2021, 23:50 last edited by
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                Answer my question, Ax.

                What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 17 Sept 2021, 06:41 last edited by
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                  GOP Rep. Gonzalez of Ohio, one who voted to impeach Trump, announced that he will not seek re-election, citing “toxicity” within the GOP as a reason.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/us/politics/anthony-gonzalez-ohio-trump.html

                  ”Representative Anthony Gonzalez, one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump, is the first of the group to retire rather than face a stiff primary challenge.”

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                  • L Larry
                    12 Sept 2021, 23:50

                    Answer my question, Ax.

                    What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 17 Sept 2021, 10:48 last edited by
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                    @larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                    Answer my question, Ax.

                    What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 22:02 last edited by
                      #175

                      https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/16/in-exclusive-interview-trump-calls-sept-18-rally-a-setup-says-gop-senate-should-fire-disaster-mcconnell/

                      Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.

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                        18 Sept 2021, 22:02

                        https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/16/in-exclusive-interview-trump-calls-sept-18-rally-a-setup-says-gop-senate-should-fire-disaster-mcconnell/

                        Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 22:05 last edited by
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                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                        I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                        Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K
                          18 Sept 2021, 22:05

                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                          I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                          Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:37 last edited by
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                          @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                          I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                          Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                          He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”

                          Trump always has disliked competition.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                            18 Sept 2021, 23:37

                            @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”

                            I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.

                            Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.

                            He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”

                            Trump always has disliked competition.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:44 last edited by
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                            @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                            Trump always has disliked competition.

                            That's right - that's what Trump said.

                            However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                            @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K
                              18 Sept 2021, 23:44

                              @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                              Trump always has disliked competition.

                              That's right - that's what Trump said.

                              However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                              @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                              #179

                              @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                              Trump always has disliked competition.

                              That's right - that's what Trump said.

                              However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                              @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                              I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                              I was only joking

                              George KG 1 Reply Last reply 18 Sept 2021, 23:58
                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                18 Sept 2021, 23:48

                                @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
                                Trump always has disliked competition.

                                That's right - that's what Trump said.

                                However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.

                                @Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?

                                I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:58 last edited by
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                                @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                OK, I'll bite.

                                There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                Doctor PhibesD 1 Reply Last reply 19 Sept 2021, 01:26
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 00:01 last edited by
                                  #181

                                  The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.

                                  Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                  As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • George KG George K
                                    18 Sept 2021, 23:58

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                    OK, I'll bite.

                                    There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                    McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:26 last edited by
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                                    @george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.

                                    OK, I'll bite.

                                    There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.

                                    McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.

                                    Oddly enough, I pretty much agree with all of that.

                                    I must admit, when I said 'Those who support Trump', you weren't somebody who sprang immediately to mind.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      19 Sept 2021, 00:01

                                      The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.

                                      Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                      As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:28 last edited by
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                                      @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                      Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

                                      I was only joking

                                      George KG 1 Reply Last reply 19 Sept 2021, 01:32
                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes
                                        19 Sept 2021, 01:28

                                        @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Trump can certainly hold a grudge.

                                        Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:32 last edited by
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.

                                        Well, that and his ego.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          wrote on 20 Sept 2021, 02:47 last edited by
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                                          Trump wants to depose McConnell, but the Senate GOP appears unwilling to go along.

                                          https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-looks-for-challenger-to-depose-mitch-mcconnell-as-split-widens-11632060002
                                          …
                                          Mr. Trump has spoken recently with senators and allies about trying to depose Mr. McConnell and whether any Republicans are interested in mounting a challenge, according to people familiar with the conversations. There is little appetite among Senate Republicans for such a plan, lawmakers and aides said, but the discussions risk driving a wedge deeper between the most influential figure in the Republican Party and its highest-ranking member in elected office.
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