Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss
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wrote on 30 Jul 2021, 14:12 last edited by Jolly
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wrote on 15 Aug 2021, 11:38 last edited by Axtremus
The Republican Accountability Project.
https://accountability.gop/The RAP?
Looks like a new kid on the block. The RAP seems to focus on voting rights issues rather than being anti-Trump per se.
It claims: “We are Republicans, former Republicans, and conservatives committed to protecting every American’s right to vote.”
It issues “report cards” for elected GOP officials rating their track records on voting rights issues: https://accountability.gop/report-card/
Their recent ad:
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wrote on 15 Aug 2021, 13:40 last edited by
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wrote on 30 Aug 2021, 00:06 last edited by
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/radicalism-post-trump-gop/619891/
Trumpism Has Entered Its Final Form
In today’s Republican Party, Trump is becoming what was once unthinkable—conventional, unexceptional, even something of an establishment figure.
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Two days later Alex Jones, the far-right radio host and conspiracy theorist Trump courted in 2016, rebuked Trump. After playing a clip of Trump declaring that the vaccines are working, Jones responded, “BS. Trump, that’s a lie. You’re not stupid.” Jones added, “Shame on you, Trump. Seriously. Hey, if you don’t have the good sense to save yourself and your political career, that’s okay. At least you’re gonna get some good Republicans elected, and you know, we like ya. But my God. Maybe you’re not that bright. Maybe Trump’s actually a dumbass.”
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wrote on 30 Aug 2021, 00:23 last edited by Larry
Ax, put aside your fixation on Trump for a minute and answer the question I've asked you three times now - are you still proud of Biden?
As for Trump, he just keeps on being proven right. The people he said would destroy the country ARE destroying the country. What do you think about how the democrat party is destroying the country, Ax?
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wrote on 12 Sept 2021, 23:06 last edited by
In a new CNN poll released Sunday, 59 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say that believing Trump won the 2020 election is "important" to being a Republican—36 percent indicated that it's "very important" and 23 percent "somewhat important."
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wrote on 12 Sept 2021, 23:50 last edited by
Answer my question, Ax.
What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?
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wrote on 17 Sept 2021, 06:41 last edited by
GOP Rep. Gonzalez of Ohio, one who voted to impeach Trump, announced that he will not seek re-election, citing “toxicity” within the GOP as a reason.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/us/politics/anthony-gonzalez-ohio-trump.html
”Representative Anthony Gonzalez, one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump, is the first of the group to retire rather than face a stiff primary challenge.”
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Answer my question, Ax.
What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?
wrote on 17 Sept 2021, 10:48 last edited by@larry said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Answer my question, Ax.
What do you think about the way the democrat party is destroying America?
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wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 22:02 last edited by
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.
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Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster” and calls for the Senate GOP to fire McConnell.
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 22:05 last edited by@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
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@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:37 last edited by@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.
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@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump berates GW Bush as a “disaster”, calls Mitch McConnell a “disaster”
I may be wrong, but iirc, you're not a fan of Bush the Lesser (as Quirt referred to him). I think you've been critical of the Minority Leader as well.
Good to see that you agree with The Orange Man.
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:44 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
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@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
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@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
He blasted former President George W. Bush as “one of the worst presidents ever,”
Trump always has disliked competition.That's right - that's what Trump said.
However, I was talking to @Axtremus ... certainly no fan of 43.
@Axtremus , do you disagree with what Trump said?
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
wrote on 18 Sept 2021, 23:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 00:01 last edited by
The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:26 last edited by@george-k said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
I'm every bit as interested in hearing from those who support Trump in whether they agree with this assessment of their previous Republican president.
OK, I'll bite.
There seems to be little doubt that Bush 43 engaged in some misadventures which have left the nation poorer (see Afghanistan - but you can also lay some of the blame on 44). I have no informed opinion on how the financial crisis at the end of his term was handled other than to say it was a cluster.
McConnell? The consummate politician. He's as savvy as Pelosi, and he knows the game - certainly he knows it better than Trump does. I think Trump is a binary type of guy - no nuance, no shades of grey. McConnell is not that type of person.
Oddly enough, I pretty much agree with all of that.
I must admit, when I said 'Those who support Trump', you weren't somebody who sprang immediately to mind.
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The Bush family took some shots at Trump during the campaign and certainly did not deign to help him during his presidency.
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
As for McConnell, the Murder Turtle has sharp elbows and is pretty good at his craft.
wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:28 last edited by@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
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@jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump can certainly hold a grudge.
Arguably Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
wrote on 19 Sept 2021, 01:32 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:
Trump's biggest weakness is that he takes everything personally.
Well, that and his ego.
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wrote on 20 Sept 2021, 02:47 last edited by
Trump wants to depose McConnell, but the Senate GOP appears unwilling to go along.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-looks-for-challenger-to-depose-mitch-mcconnell-as-split-widens-11632060002
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Mr. Trump has spoken recently with senators and allies about trying to depose Mr. McConnell and whether any Republicans are interested in mounting a challenge, according to people familiar with the conversations. There is little appetite among Senate Republicans for such a plan, lawmakers and aides said, but the discussions risk driving a wedge deeper between the most influential figure in the Republican Party and its highest-ranking member in elected office.
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