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Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss

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    Mik
    wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:32 last edited by
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    Nothing about that on the news.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Rainman
      wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:33 last edited by
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      EVERYONE knows that black is slimming.
      That's the first thing fat people learn as soon as they are old enough to realize they are fat.

      So why do the fat women in a protest march wear grey?
      Ax, why is that, huh??

      And if marching is what they "do" in their lives, why haven't they lost weight so they could confidently wear grey?
      Ax, why is that, huh??

      Larry would know. I wish Larry would help straighten everyone out.

      BTW I don't mean straighten like "straight" white males, because the fat ones are female, or maybe not straight females, they might well be pronoun-peopled people, and oops they are not white because they can't be because white especially males are evil and part of the centuries-old patriarchy stuff. Geez, one entire paragraph trying to explain why I dared to use "straight" let alone "white."
      Maybe that's why they wear grey, I mean mix black and white, and what color do you get?? Ax, tell 'em bud, you know this!!
      Grey panthers. They're baaaaack!!

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        7 Feb 2021, 00:32

        Nothing about that on the news.

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        Rainman
        wrote on 7 Feb 2021, 00:38 last edited by
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        @mik said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

        Nothing about that on the news.

        Hey, it's not reported on a daily basis here, either, although it is every night somewhere in the city.
        PDX is PD special.

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 8 Feb 2021, 14:44 last edited by
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          Liz Cheney’s interview with Chris Wallace of Fox News:

          Link to video

          Posted it elsewhere, but it’s an important window to where the GOP may go post Trump, so tracking it here too.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 19:35 last edited by
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            https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

            Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

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            • A Axtremus
              9 Feb 2021, 19:35

              https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

              Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

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              Loki
              wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 19:47 last edited by
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              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-tim-scott-may-face-censure-south-carolina-county-gop-1567810

              Sen. Lindsey Graham and Sen. Tim Scott are facing censure by the county GOP in Aiken County, South Carolina because Graham and Scott did not oppose Biden’s election win back on Jan.6, 2021.

              Let’s see what they decide and let’s also see if it unifies or fractures them. Circle back when you find out.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 20:53 last edited by
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                Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • J jon-nyc
                  9 Feb 2021, 20:53

                  Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:43 last edited by George K 2 Sept 2021, 22:45
                  #14

                  @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                  Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                  Glenn Reynolds: “For a guy who supposedly lost, Trump sure had a lot of coattails. And for a guy who supposedly won, Biden sure didn’t.”

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:50 last edited by
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                    Makes you think there were Republicans that didn't want to vote for him. I'll bet Mr Reynolds knows some! Probably has pet names for them like 'RINO' and "NeverTrumper'.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      9 Feb 2021, 20:53

                      Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 9 Feb 2021, 22:57 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      Our two party system is morphing into the Democratic Party and the Anti-democratic Party.

                      Pretty much. Many old style GOP voters would rather have anything but what’s on the Democrat menu. A fragile coalition of hard core Trumpsters and urban socially liberal GOP. If GOP alienates the Trump base it has no firm idea how to replace it.

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 14:58 last edited by
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                        https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                        Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                        Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                        The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                        ...
                        ——

                        Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                        What are these people thinking?

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                        • A Axtremus
                          10 Feb 2021, 14:58

                          https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                          Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                          Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                          The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                          ...
                          ——

                          Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                          What are these people thinking?

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                          Loki
                          wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 15:34 last edited by Loki 2 Oct 2021, 15:35
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                          Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                          This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                          • L Loki
                            10 Feb 2021, 15:34

                            Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                            This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 15:37 last edited by
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                            @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                            This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

                            Shhh... you're interrupting the narrative that ignores the fact that most folks are rather centrist.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              10 Feb 2021, 15:34

                              Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US. How many times are we going to quote these people? There are so many fringe examples on both sides.

                              This is akin to commenting on any twitter post from any post.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:19 last edited by
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                              @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                              Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

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                              • A Axtremus
                                10 Feb 2021, 16:19

                                @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:38 last edited by
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                                @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

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                                • A Axtremus
                                  10 Feb 2021, 14:58

                                  https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-senator-mike-shirkey-thinks-capitol-riot-was-staged-mitch-mcconnell-was-part-it-1568075

                                  Michigan Senator Mike Shirkey Thinks Capitol Riot Was 'Staged,' Mitch McConnell Was 'Part of It'

                                  Shirkey's comments were recorded in a video that was posted on YouTube after he met with members of the Hillsdale County Republican Party. The local GOP group later voted to censure him for not supporting former President Donald Trump enough and for failing to stand up to Governor Gretchen Whitmer with regard to the Second Amendment and COVID-19 restrictions.
                                  The conversation began as a meeting about his upcoming censure but turned attention to the Capitol riot. When asked "What about the D.C. thing?" Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                  ...
                                  ——

                                  Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey claims that the Jan.6 Capitol riot was a hoax, accused McConnell for being in on the hoax, then he got censured by the Hillsdale County GOP for not supporting Trump enough.

                                  What are these people thinking?

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:40 last edited by
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                                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  Shirkey called it a "hoax from day one."
                                  ——

                                  I think we can all agree that the coverage of the event meant to present a hoax.

                                  A few doofusses taking selfies were not going to overthrow anything.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:45 last edited by
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                                    You're probably right. T'was a mere trifle in the scheme of things.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • L Loki
                                      10 Feb 2021, 16:38

                                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                      Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                      I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                      So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 16:52 last edited by
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                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                      Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                      Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                      I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                      So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

                                      I probably wouldn't post it if it's only Sharkey saying some crazy things. I post it because there is also the compounding factor of the county GOP censuring Shirkey for "not supporting Trump enough" after Shirkey saying those crazy things. Putting the two together gives us a window into how state/county GOP works in the post-Trump environment.

                                      If you wish, you can try to find examples of Democratic state senate majority leaders saying crazy things and then have state/county Democratic parties censuring him/her for "not supporting Obama/Clinton/Biden enough," then we can compare notes to see if there really is any equivalence or somehow the Trump-supporting GOP wing is "more special."

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                                      • A Axtremus
                                        10 Feb 2021, 16:52

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                        Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                        I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                        So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

                                        I probably wouldn't post it if it's only Sharkey saying some crazy things. I post it because there is also the compounding factor of the county GOP censuring Shirkey for "not supporting Trump enough" after Shirkey saying those crazy things. Putting the two together gives us a window into how state/county GOP works in the post-Trump environment.

                                        If you wish, you can try to find examples of Democratic state senate majority leaders saying crazy things and then have state/county Democratic parties censuring him/her for "not supporting Obama/Clinton/Biden enough," then we can compare notes to see if there really is any equivalence or somehow the Trump-supporting GOP wing is "more special."

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 19:37 last edited by
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                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        @loki said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Sharkey is a state senator, likely thousands in the US.

                                        Sharkey is a state senate majority leader; there are only 50 of those in the US.

                                        I have said many times quoting state critters is diving into the mosh pit. It’s so crazy to make it national news is just abusive as most people don’t catch the big asterisk.

                                        So your state senate leader said something crazy, okay, well that state congressperson stuff happens many times a day. You gonna cherry pick?

                                        I probably wouldn't post it if it's only Sharkey saying some crazy things. I post it because there is also the compounding factor of the county GOP censuring Shirkey for "not supporting Trump enough" after Shirkey saying those crazy things. Putting the two together gives us a window into how state/county GOP works in the post-Trump environment.

                                        If you wish, you can try to find examples of Democratic state senate majority leaders saying crazy things and then have state/county Democratic parties censuring him/her for "not supporting Obama/Clinton/Biden enough," then we can compare notes to see if there really is any equivalence or somehow the Trump-supporting GOP wing is "more special."

                                        So I spent some time and see that he apologized for calling the riot a hoax as well as being staged and what he said about McConnell. And the censure had about 15 points in it of which the stuff you highlighted was two or three. I had to get all that by piecing together several articles. Do you concur with what I just said as it seems relevant to the entire picture.

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                                        • R Renauda
                                          10 Feb 2021, 16:45

                                          You're probably right. T'was a mere trifle in the scheme of things.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 10 Feb 2021, 19:39 last edited by
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                                          @renauda said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          You're probably right. T'was a mere trifle in the scheme of things.

                                          All they needed to do was lock the Capitol doors.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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