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We are for human rights again!

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 06:12 last edited by
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    Blinken presses China on Xinjiang, Hong Kong in call with Beijing's top diplomat
    https://reut.rs/2MFAwKz

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told top Chinese diplomat Yang Jiechi in a phone call on Friday the United States will stand up for human rights and democratic values in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong, the State Department said.

    Blinken also pressed China to condemn the military coup in Myanmar, and he reaffirmed that Washington will work with allies to hold China accountable for efforts to threaten stability of Indo-Pacific, including across the Taiwan Strait, the department said in a statement.
    ...”

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 15:42 last edited by
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      👍

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        Mik
        wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 16:25 last edited by
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        Strongly worded letter to follow.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • A Axtremus
          6 Feb 2021, 06:12

          Blinken presses China on Xinjiang, Hong Kong in call with Beijing's top diplomat
          https://reut.rs/2MFAwKz

          “WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken told top Chinese diplomat Yang Jiechi in a phone call on Friday the United States will stand up for human rights and democratic values in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong, the State Department said.

          Blinken also pressed China to condemn the military coup in Myanmar, and he reaffirmed that Washington will work with allies to hold China accountable for efforts to threaten stability of Indo-Pacific, including across the Taiwan Strait, the department said in a statement.
          ...”

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          Loki
          wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 16:57 last edited by
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          Much bigger threat than Russia. Hopefully people will get it now.

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            Loki
            wrote on 6 Feb 2021, 17:23 last edited by
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            Hilarious that CNN is suddenly obsessed with China. Something well known to be more important than Russia for ages.

            https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/economy/china-xi-economy-intl-hnk/

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 04:53 last edited by
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              https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/in-first-call-with-chinas-xi-biden-stresses-us-commitment-to-allies-and-human-rights/2021/02/10/6cb6f0fa-6c01-11eb-ba56-d7e2c8defa31_story.html

              In first call with China’s Xi, Biden stresses U.S. commitment to allies and human rights

              President Biden will not immediately drop tariffs on China that were applied by former president Donald Trump, and he and told Chinese President Xi Jinping on Wednesday that the United States will seek to counter Chinese military expansionism and human rights abuses, White House officials said.
              ...
              “President Biden underscored his fundamental concerns about Beijing’s coercive and unfair economic practices, crackdown in Hong Kong, human rights abuses in Xinjiang, and increasingly assertive actions in the region, including toward Taiwan,” the White House statement said.
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                Jolly
                wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 12:22 last edited by
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                It's all about semantics.

                Trump put children in cages, letting them sleep on concrete floors with a blanket. He abused children, according to the media and many in Congress.

                Biden is putting children in cages, letting them sleep on concrete floors with a blanket. He is doing this, because he cares for these poor children, according to the media and many in Congress.

                Joe's tough on China policy is toothless. But it's nice words...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  George K
                  wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 14:52 last edited by
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                  China is an ally, don't you know?

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • J Jolly
                    11 Feb 2021, 12:22

                    It's all about semantics.

                    Trump put children in cages, letting them sleep on concrete floors with a blanket. He abused children, according to the media and many in Congress.

                    Biden is putting children in cages, letting them sleep on concrete floors with a blanket. He is doing this, because he cares for these poor children, according to the media and many in Congress.

                    Joe's tough on China policy is toothless. But it's nice words...

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 11 Feb 2021, 16:57 last edited by
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                    @jolly said in We are for human rights again!:

                    Joe's tough on China policy is toothless. But it's nice words...

                    So far, how has what President Biden has said and done in regards to China different than what President Trump said and did?

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 09:01 last edited by
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                      U.S. ship sails in South China Sea by China-claimed islands
                      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-usa-china-fonop/u-s-ship-sails-in-south-china-sea-by-china-claimed-islands-idUSKBN2AH0J7

                      “(Reuters) - A U.S. Navy warship sailed by islands claimed by China in the South China Sea on Wednesday in a freedom of navigation operation, marking the latest move by Washington to challenge Beijing’s territorial claims in the contested waters.
                      ...”

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                      • A Axtremus
                        17 Feb 2021, 09:01

                        U.S. ship sails in South China Sea by China-claimed islands
                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-usa-china-fonop/u-s-ship-sails-in-south-china-sea-by-china-claimed-islands-idUSKBN2AH0J7

                        “(Reuters) - A U.S. Navy warship sailed by islands claimed by China in the South China Sea on Wednesday in a freedom of navigation operation, marking the latest move by Washington to challenge Beijing’s territorial claims in the contested waters.
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 17 Feb 2021, 14:01 last edited by
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                        @axtremus said in We are for human rights again!:

                        U.S. ship sails in South China Sea by China-claimed islands
                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-usa-china-fonop/u-s-ship-sails-in-south-china-sea-by-china-claimed-islands-idUSKBN2AH0J7

                        “(Reuters) - A U.S. Navy warship sailed by islands claimed by China in the South China Sea on Wednesday in a freedom of navigation operation, marking the latest move by Washington to challenge Beijing’s territorial claims in the contested waters.
                        ...”

                        Nothing new. We've been operating in the area.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 17 Mar 2021, 13:03 last edited by
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                          https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/17/world/asia/us-china-biden.html

                          U.S. Punishes 24 Chinese Officials on Eve of First Talks Under Biden
                          Setting a confrontational tone ahead of meetings in Alaska, the United States punished Chinese officials involved in eroding democracy in Hong Kong.

                          The United States punished 24 Chinese officials on Wednesday for undermining Hong Kong’s democratic freedoms, acting days before the first scheduled meeting of senior Chinese and American diplomats since President Biden took office.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 17 Mar 2021, 14:44 last edited by
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                            And the US recently agreed to sell submarine parts to Taiwan.

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 17 Mar 2021, 22:25 last edited by Loki
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                              How’s it going with human rights in Iran? Is that part of the negotiations that may happen?

                              I think they have a worse ranking than China by many measures.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 18 Mar 2021, 03:14 last edited by
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                                We're for human rights, but we won't allow anybody - even elected Republicans - to tour border detention facilities...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 22 Mar 2021, 22:01 last edited by
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                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/22/us-allies-sanctions-china-uighers-genocide-477434

                                  U.S., allies announce sanctions on China over Uyghur ‘genocide’
                                  The Biden administration is working with Canada and Europe to put human rights pressure on Beijing.

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                                    17 Mar 2021, 14:44

                                    And the US recently agreed to sell submarine parts to Taiwan.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 22 Mar 2021, 22:40 last edited by
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                                    @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

                                    And the US recently agreed to sell submarine parts to Taiwan.

                                    Now Taiwan needs submarines to put them in.

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                                    • CopperC Copper
                                      22 Mar 2021, 22:40

                                      @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

                                      And the US recently agreed to sell submarine parts to Taiwan.

                                      Now Taiwan needs submarines to put them in.

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                                      wrote on 22 Mar 2021, 23:36 last edited by
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                                      @copper said in We are for human rights again!:

                                      @taiwan_girl said in We are for human rights again!:

                                      And the US recently agreed to sell submarine parts to Taiwan.

                                      Now Taiwan needs submarines to put them in.

                                      Yup, building now, and expected to be ready in 2024 or 2025.

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 00:38 last edited by
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                                        I should go check, but isn't the strait of Taiwan fairly shallow, and not a good match for submarines. Thought I heard that somewhere.

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                                        • RainmanR Rainman
                                          23 Mar 2021, 00:38

                                          I should go check, but isn't the strait of Taiwan fairly shallow, and not a good match for submarines. Thought I heard that somewhere.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 01:46 last edited by
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                                          @rainman said in We are for human rights again!:

                                          fairly shallow, and not a good match for submarines.

                                          Yup

                                          ![alt text](1e56d979-64e2-424b-90bf-30d80342cd7e-image.png image url)

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