Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man
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wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 21:22 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2021, 21:28
Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.
As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.
As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.
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@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 21:25 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
I'd stop digging, if I were you.
No need
But if it helps you to feel virtuous , please feel free to insinuate whatever you want
I remain comfortable discussing things that would make your HR lady faint
I just think you're in danger of making yourself look like a bit of a twat. I'm only trying to help.
Get this
I am neither for nor against diversity in this forum
Sorry, I’m sure you’ll be crawling around looking for your pearls for a while.
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@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:02 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
Are you daydrinking?
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@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
Are you daydrinking?
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:05 last edited by@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Are you daydrinking?
I am, NTTAWWT.
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@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
Are you daydrinking?
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 22:58 last edited by@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
Are you daydrinking?
Do you think it would help?
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@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@doctor-phibes said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Why? By saying something may be legal when it very well may be?
Collecting photographs of porcine genitalia is perfectly legal, too. I would hazard a guess that if you stumbled upon a large scrap-book filled with such photography, and your immediate reaction was 'Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL YOU KNOW!!!', that eyebrows might be raised.
Are you daydrinking?
Do you think it would help?
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:00 last edited by@doctor-phibes probably.
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Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.
As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.
As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:22 last edited by@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.
As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.
As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.
That makes it more interesting and launches this issue into my wheelhouse. I've been involved with cemetery stuff at the church for the last couple of years. If it's a private cemetery, the by-laws apply and not public accommodation laws.
Right or wrong, the 81 year-old lady was pointing out what was on the books. Don't like it? Bring it before the church and have the rules changed.
And apparently, that's what happened. You can now all dig your panties out of the crack of your collective asses....
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@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Freedom of association? FFS, its a damned cemetery and from what I can gather, a Christian cemetery at that. Full of putrefying Christian corpses that have well moved beyond caring whether or not their neighbour in the next grave or crypt was at one time a black man or woman.
As Cats stated it's antediluvian, an outdated and indefensible rule from a bygone era that was characterized by racism against the negro race. This is 2021 such rules have no place anywhere in any jurisdiction in North America, especially the USA.
As to whether I sound virtuous, I really don't care. I just consider the source of the epithet and nod my head. I'd much rather sound virtuous than like a George Wallace, who is exactly what some folks here sound like while they spin their nonsense.
That makes it more interesting and launches this issue into my wheelhouse. I've been involved with cemetery stuff at the church for the last couple of years. If it's a private cemetery, the by-laws apply and not public accommodation laws.
Right or wrong, the 81 year-old lady was pointing out what was on the books. Don't like it? Bring it before the church and have the rules changed.
And apparently, that's what happened. You can now all dig your panties out of the crack of your collective asses....
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@jolly ....and it took what and how long since the 1960s for them to review their books?
Thought so.
You sort your own laundry out.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:42 last edited by@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly ....and it took what and how long since the 1960s for them to review their books?
Thought so.
You sort your own laundry out.
Those things are not routinely reviewed. The operating policies are drawn up, then voted on. As long as they stipulate certain things such as plot prices, plot locations, grave depths, etc., the policies are not revisited. The state mandates a certain amount of funds in escrow, if plots are sold as perpetual care and the state requests an initial plot map and a periodic update.
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
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@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly ....and it took what and how long since the 1960s for them to review their books?
Thought so.
You sort your own laundry out.
Those things are not routinely reviewed. The operating policies are drawn up, then voted on. As long as they stipulate certain things such as plot prices, plot locations, grave depths, etc., the policies are not revisited. The state mandates a certain amount of funds in escrow, if plots are sold as perpetual care and the state requests an initial plot map and a periodic update.
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
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@jolly The argument that this policy was some unintended carry over from yesteryear would hold more sway if the caretaker didn't tell them they couldn't do business the instant she saw black people.
wrote on 1 Feb 2021, 23:59 last edited by@rich said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly The argument that this policy was some unintended carry over from yesteryear would hold more sway if the caretaker didn't tell them they couldn't do business the instant she saw black people.
She's 81. For all I know, she could have wrote the policy. And that may be her personal feelings.
What I am saying, is that these things are not part of a normal cycle of review within a church that has a cemetery.
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@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly ....and it took what and how long since the 1960s for them to review their books?
Thought so.
You sort your own laundry out.
Those things are not routinely reviewed. The operating policies are drawn up, then voted on. As long as they stipulate certain things such as plot prices, plot locations, grave depths, etc., the policies are not revisited. The state mandates a certain amount of funds in escrow, if plots are sold as perpetual care and the state requests an initial plot map and a periodic update.
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 00:17 last edited by@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
Basically you are probably right but that still doesn't explain why in 2021 black folks still could not purchase grave plots in the cemetery. In this day and age of legalese and litigation suggesting these policies are not regularly reviewed by the management and BoD strikes me as either a lame excuse or just plain disingenuous.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 00:52 last edited by Rainman 2 Feb 2021, 00:53
@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
Well, that pretty much sums up a lot of us, eh?
And as for blacks being buried there, that's fine. I'm perfectly fine with that. No problem, this is 2021, the rage of intersectionality, CRT, SJW, everything is racist or needs to be. I get it, I'm in, BLM+.
But of course, no Mexicans.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 00:56 last edited by
Or Irish.
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@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
Basically you are probably right but that still doesn't explain why in 2021 black folks still could not purchase grave plots in the cemetery. In this day and age of legalese and litigation suggesting these policies are not regularly reviewed by the management and BoD strikes me as either a lame excuse or just plain disingenuous.
wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 02:41 last edited by@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
that still doesn't explain why in 2021 black folks still could not purchase grave plots in the cemetery.
In case you missed it above, they changed the policy, black folks can buy the grave plot.
I hope that helps with your outrage.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 02:58 last edited by
It had likely never been challenged and it’s quite likely no one really cared.
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@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
Well, that pretty much sums up a lot of us, eh?
And as for blacks being buried there, that's fine. I'm perfectly fine with that. No problem, this is 2021, the rage of intersectionality, CRT, SJW, everything is racist or needs to be. I get it, I'm in, BLM+.
But of course, no Mexicans.
wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 03:01 last edited by@rainman said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@jolly said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
Now, you basically don't know what the fuck you are talking about and on this issue you have an opinion based on no knowledge.
Well, that pretty much sums up a lot of us, eh?
And as for blacks being buried there, that's fine. I'm perfectly fine with that. No problem, this is 2021, the rage of intersectionality, CRT, SJW, everything is racist or needs to be. I get it, I'm in, BLM+.
But of course, no Mexicans.
To be honest, as long as it's a private cemetery, I'm not much concerned who they bury there. For instance, maybe there's a private cemetery by a synagogue and they have a policy where no Muslims can be buried there. Or Christians. Or Herbie Hancock fans.
I may not like it. I might condemn them for their practices. But I figure they've got a right to do what they want to at a private venue of whatever kind.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 03:01 last edited by
@mik said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
It had likely never been challenged and it’s quite likely no one really cared.
Oh, maybe they cared 60 years ago. Or maybe longer...
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@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
that still doesn't explain why in 2021 black folks still could not purchase grave plots in the cemetery.
In case you missed it above, they changed the policy, black folks can buy the grave plot.
I hope that helps with your outrage.
wrote on 2 Feb 2021, 04:04 last edited by Renauda 2 Mar 2021, 18:59@copper said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
@renauda said in Louisiana whites-0nly cemetery apologizes for refusing to bury black man:
that still doesn't explain why in 2021 black folks still could not purchase grave plots in the cemetery.
In case you missed it above, they changed the policy, black folks can buy the grave plot.
I hope that helps with your outrage.
Hell, I learned that yesterday sometime between after jon posted "Bad legal takes by Copper" and then provided you with the hot link on public accomodations. But I understand your indignation though, you've dug yourself into a hole. You really ought to have taken Phibes advice against that. Silly billy.
In any case I am disappointed not outraged that something this still occurs in a country such as the USA.