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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

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    89th
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    #59

    @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

    Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

    Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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      George K
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      #60

      Twitter bans President Trump.

      48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

      A "virtual impeachment".

      Surely it's a coincidence, right?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Twitter bans President Trump.

        48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

        A "virtual impeachment".

        Surely it's a coincidence, right?

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        jon-nyc
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        #61

        I wonder how much liability concerns enter into it. They probably have liability when there is open planning and encouragement of violence on their platform and they don't take reasonable steps to suppress it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • 89th8 89th

          @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

          Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #62

          @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

          @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

          Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

          You also live in the Beltway...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

            Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

            You also live in the Beltway...

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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by Horace
            #63

            @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

            Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

            You also live in the Beltway...

            How the heck do you deal with any genuine belief that Trump actually won that election?

            Education is extremely important.

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            • 89th8 89th

              @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

              Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

              Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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              Copper
              wrote on last edited by Copper
              #64

              @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

              @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

              Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

              Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

              So you think people who voted for Trump are small.

              Every single one that I know is big.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                You also live in the Beltway...

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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #65

                @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                You also live in the Beltway...

                Yes but my point is the same, everyone who voted for Trump does not support the stolen election false narrative.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-permanently-bans-president-donald-trump-n1253588?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn

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                  Loki
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                  Twitter stock is under a lot of pressure today. They fired their top salesperson so it’s not so surprising.

                  Also I’m sure people are reluctant to be as open and hopefully less divisive but that isn’t good for eyeballs.

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                    George K
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                    #67

                    LOL...

                    Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      LOL...

                      Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #68

                      @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                      LOL...

                      Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                      In what way are the two situations at all the same?

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        LOL...

                        Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                        In what way are the two situations at all the same?

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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #69

                        @aqua-letifer said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        LOL...

                        Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                        In what way are the two situations at all the same?

                        Both involve losing your mind with hatred

                        Over a couple of harmless quotes taken out of context.

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                          A man set up a twitter account where he did nothing but retype in President Trumps tweets to see how twitter would react.

                          QUOTE
                          Lazar, who since joined the Arizona Lincoln Project leadership team as a volunteer, encouraged @SuspendThePres’ over 54,000 followers to report rule-violating tweets. Over the course of the last eight months, Lazar previously told HuffPost, the account was flagged four times for posting what Twitter described as tweets “glorifying violence” and “posting misleading information about voting.” In each instance, the offending tweets were deleted by the platform and the account was temporarily locked.

                          However, when they came from Trump’s account, those same tweets were allowed to stay online, some with disclaimers attached, due to Twitter policies that generally leave rule-violating content from world leaders up, since such statements are deemed within the public interest.
                          UNQUOTE

                          So, just based on this, it cannot be said that President Trump was acted on unfairly by Twitter. If anything, he was treated more fairly.

                          Retyping of President Trump Tweets

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                            Horace
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                            I think Twitter is more comfortable at this point with its clear moderation direction. Nothing much left standing in its way. It would have been kind of a big deal to ban POTUS before, not so much after the Capitol riots and after he is no longer POTUS elect. We all weigh our "moral stands" against the backlash we expect to get for them, though some of us are more aware of that than others.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              George K
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                              Germany and France oppose the ban:

                              Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.

                              German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.

                              “The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature -- not according to a corporate decision.”

                              The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.

                              Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #73

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #74

                                  I think it's time to legislate. I've come round to Jolly's way of thinking.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • George KG George K

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                                    @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    They should Parler Twitter.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      They should Parler Twitter.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #76

                                      @aqua-letifer there you go, verbing nouns again.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @aqua-letifer there you go, verbing nouns again.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #77

                                        @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                        @aqua-letifer there you go, verbing nouns again.

                                        Anthimeria.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-06.08..21-02

                                          Trump wrote: “Congratulations to the country of Nigeria, who just banned Twitter because they banned their President. More COUNTRIES should ban Twitter and Facebook for not allowing free and open speech—all voices should be heard. In the meantime, competitors will emerge and take hold. Who are they to dictate good and evil if they themselves are evil? Perhaps I should have done it while I was President. But Zuckerberg kept calling me and coming to the White House for dinner telling me how great I was. 2024?”

                                          There goes Trump, again, praising a speech suppressing state action taken by an autocratic regime and pining to emulate it himself.

                                          And Trump not executing a major policy just because Zuckerberg kept telling Trump nice things about Trump? How gullible.

                                          “2024?“ 🍿 Hahahahahahaha! 🍿

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