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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @horace Actually this time round, I'll let you describe the difference and I'll either agree or disagree.

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    @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

    @horace Actually this time round, I'll let you describe the difference and I'll either agree or disagree.

    Well my post was an admission that I'm not understanding the difference. Though "illiberal" was a tell. You have a vague preference for the left to the right, at least as the terms are used within American and/or Canadian politics. I admit to such a vague preference as well, though in the opposite direction.

    Education is extremely important.

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      @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

      @horace Actually this time round, I'll let you describe the difference and I'll either agree or disagree.

      Well my post was an admission that I'm not understanding the difference. Though "illiberal" was a tell. You have a vague preference for the left to the right, at least as the terms are used within American and/or Canadian politics. I admit to such a vague preference as well, though in the opposite direction.

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      #49

      @horace Works for me. Although I might add that I have little or no patience and time for the cancel culture or identity politics of current progressives or new left. Wokism, or whatever it's called this month, just does not fit into the dialectic to which I subscribe.

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @horace Works for me. Although I might add that I have little or no patience and time for the cancel culture or identity politics of current progressives or new left. Wokism, or whatever it's called this month, just does not fit into the dialectic to which I subscribe.

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        @renauda said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

        @horace Works for me. Although I might add that I have little or no patience and time for the cancel culture or identity politics of current progressives or new left. Wokism, or whatever it's called this month, just does not fit into the dialectic to which I subscribe.

        I understand that completely. I've spent pretty much my entire adult life thinking of myself as 'liberal' and 'centre-left', and then suddenly it feels like the ground I used to occupy has been taken over by all those dip-shits I used to run into in the Student Union at university with the rimless glasses and the goatee beards who would shout at me for banking with Barclays, and talk about the rights of 'The Working Class' even though they'd been to some posh little school in Surrey and their daddy was a stockbroker.

        I was only joking

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          @Klaus @xenon I just want make this point about the Adroid "App Store" landscape:

          • In most of the world, yes, most people use the Google Play Store exclusively to get their Android apps
          • But in China, Google and Amazon are blocked by the Chinese Great Firewall ... yet there are like a billion Android phones being used in China and they still get their Android apps. This should be enough to show most reasonable people that it is entirely possible to support hundreds of millions of Android users without relying on a Google operated Play Store.

          So, yes, I am still quite convinced that Google Play Store is powerless to censor something, some apps, that Android users really, really want.

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            If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

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              @jon-nyc haha so I was already assuming he was doing that. “Hey can I bring you 50 million users?”

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                But then you can also argue that anyone who is smart would not want to make any deal with Trump, for Trump’s track record is to eventually burn just about everyone he “works with.” Cohen, Sessions, Barr, Pence ... the list is long.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/trump-reacts-to-twitter-ban-456785

                  In a statement issued by the White House, Trump said he’d been “negotiating with various other sites” while “we also look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future.” But aides did not reveal what plans were in the works. When Trump’s eldest son, Don Jr. offered up a URL to those hoping to keep tabs of his father’s whereabouts, it was a site that had been purchased in 2009 and, in recent years, a place where his books were sold. For those who did sign up, an email was sent, plugging his latest work: “Liberal Privilege”.

                  I hope he builds his own platform.

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                  @axtremus said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                  I hope he builds his own platform.

                  Separate but equal, is that it?

                  Next, they won't let him eat at Woolworth's lunch counter.

                  Are Facebook and Twitter public accommodations?

                  They might be someday soon.

                  If they are, they would have to have even-handed application of the rules.

                  Rules that would be enforced by the Civil Rights Division of Mr. Biden's Justice Department.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                    If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

                    72 million is a helluva cult.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

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                        @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                        I agree with this @jolly. You keep mentioning that the 70+ million people like they are all homogenus that all believe the same thing, listen to the thing, follow the "orders" from the same people, etc.

                        That is as bad as saying the 80+ MM who voted for President Biden are all the same.

                        There are some on the edges of each party who are extreme, but they are definitely in the minority.

                        That is one of the problems with news sources and the internet today. If you (general you, not anybody specifically) start following, for example, a far right news source, the internet starts steering you towards other far right news sources. After a while, you think that those sources represent the majority of thinking in the US because that is all you see.

                        (Another reason I like this forum board. Good variety of opinions and allows me to see different view points. 😍 )

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                          Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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                            Twitter bans President Trump.

                            48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

                            A "virtual impeachment".

                            Surely it's a coincidence, right?

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              Twitter bans President Trump.

                              48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

                              A "virtual impeachment".

                              Surely it's a coincidence, right?

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                              I wonder how much liability concerns enter into it. They probably have liability when there is open planning and encouragement of violence on their platform and they don't take reasonable steps to suppress it.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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                                @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                You also live in the Beltway...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                  Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                  Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                  You also live in the Beltway...

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                                  Horace
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                                  #63

                                  @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                  @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                  Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                  Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                  You also live in the Beltway...

                                  How the heck do you deal with any genuine belief that Trump actually won that election?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                    Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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                                    #64

                                    @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                    Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                    So you think people who voted for Trump are small.

                                    Every single one that I know is big.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                      Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                      You also live in the Beltway...

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                                      @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                                      Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                                      You also live in the Beltway...

                                      Yes but my point is the same, everyone who voted for Trump does not support the stolen election false narrative.

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-permanently-bans-president-donald-trump-n1253588?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn

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                                        Twitter stock is under a lot of pressure today. They fired their top salesperson so it’s not so surprising.

                                        Also I’m sure people are reluctant to be as open and hopefully less divisive but that isn’t good for eyeballs.

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                                          LOL...

                                          Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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