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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #52

    If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
    89th8 JollyJ 2 Replies Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

      89th8 Offline
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      89th
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      #53

      @jon-nyc haha so I was already assuming he was doing that. “Hey can I bring you 50 million users?”

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        #54

        But then you can also argue that anyone who is smart would not want to make any deal with Trump, for Trump’s track record is to eventually burn just about everyone he “works with.” Cohen, Sessions, Barr, Pence ... the list is long.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/08/trump-reacts-to-twitter-ban-456785

          In a statement issued by the White House, Trump said he’d been “negotiating with various other sites” while “we also look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future.” But aides did not reveal what plans were in the works. When Trump’s eldest son, Don Jr. offered up a URL to those hoping to keep tabs of his father’s whereabouts, it was a site that had been purchased in 2009 and, in recent years, a place where his books were sold. For those who did sign up, an email was sent, plugging his latest work: “Liberal Privilege”.

          I hope he builds his own platform.

          CopperC Offline
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          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #55

          @axtremus said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

          I hope he builds his own platform.

          Separate but equal, is that it?

          Next, they won't let him eat at Woolworth's lunch counter.

          Are Facebook and Twitter public accommodations?

          They might be someday soon.

          If they are, they would have to have even-handed application of the rules.

          Rules that would be enforced by the Civil Rights Division of Mr. Biden's Justice Department.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #56

            @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

            If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it the center of his cult his communications hub moving forward.

            72 million is a helluva cult.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #57

              Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
              taiwan_girlT 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

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                taiwan_girl
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                #58

                @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                I agree with this @jolly. You keep mentioning that the 70+ million people like they are all homogenus that all believe the same thing, listen to the thing, follow the "orders" from the same people, etc.

                That is as bad as saying the 80+ MM who voted for President Biden are all the same.

                There are some on the edges of each party who are extreme, but they are definitely in the minority.

                That is one of the problems with news sources and the internet today. If you (general you, not anybody specifically) start following, for example, a far right news source, the internet starts steering you towards other far right news sources. After a while, you think that those sources represent the majority of thinking in the US because that is all you see.

                (Another reason I like this forum board. Good variety of opinions and allows me to see different view points. 😍 )

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                  89th8 Offline
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                  #59

                  @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                  Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                  Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

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                    George K
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                    #60

                    Twitter bans President Trump.

                    48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

                    A "virtual impeachment".

                    Surely it's a coincidence, right?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      Twitter bans President Trump.

                      48 hours later Amazon bans Parler.

                      A "virtual impeachment".

                      Surely it's a coincidence, right?

                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #61

                      I wonder how much liability concerns enter into it. They probably have liability when there is open planning and encouragement of violence on their platform and they don't take reasonable steps to suppress it.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                        Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #62

                        @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                        Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                        Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                        You also live in the Beltway...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                        HoraceH 89th8 2 Replies Last reply
                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                          Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                          You also live in the Beltway...

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by Horace
                          #63

                          @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                          Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                          Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                          You also live in the Beltway...

                          How the heck do you deal with any genuine belief that Trump actually won that election?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                            Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                            Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                            CopperC Offline
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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by Copper
                            #64

                            @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                            @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                            Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                            Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                            So you think people who voted for Trump are small.

                            Every single one that I know is big.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                              Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                              You also live in the Beltway...

                              89th8 Offline
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                              89th
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #65

                              @jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              @89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              @jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                              Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.

                              Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.

                              You also live in the Beltway...

                              Yes but my point is the same, everyone who voted for Trump does not support the stolen election false narrative.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-permanently-bans-president-donald-trump-n1253588?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_nn

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                                Loki
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                                #66

                                Twitter stock is under a lot of pressure today. They fired their top salesperson so it’s not so surprising.

                                Also I’m sure people are reluctant to be as open and hopefully less divisive but that isn’t good for eyeballs.

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                                  George K
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                                  LOL...

                                  Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    LOL...

                                    Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #68

                                    @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                    LOL...

                                    Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                                    In what way are the two situations at all the same?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      LOL...

                                      Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                                      In what way are the two situations at all the same?

                                      CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #69

                                      @aqua-letifer said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      @george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:

                                      LOL...

                                      Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.

                                      In what way are the two situations at all the same?

                                      Both involve losing your mind with hatred

                                      Over a couple of harmless quotes taken out of context.

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                                        taiwan_girl
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                                        A man set up a twitter account where he did nothing but retype in President Trumps tweets to see how twitter would react.

                                        QUOTE
                                        Lazar, who since joined the Arizona Lincoln Project leadership team as a volunteer, encouraged @SuspendThePres’ over 54,000 followers to report rule-violating tweets. Over the course of the last eight months, Lazar previously told HuffPost, the account was flagged four times for posting what Twitter described as tweets “glorifying violence” and “posting misleading information about voting.” In each instance, the offending tweets were deleted by the platform and the account was temporarily locked.

                                        However, when they came from Trump’s account, those same tweets were allowed to stay online, some with disclaimers attached, due to Twitter policies that generally leave rule-violating content from world leaders up, since such statements are deemed within the public interest.
                                        UNQUOTE

                                        So, just based on this, it cannot be said that President Trump was acted on unfairly by Twitter. If anything, he was treated more fairly.

                                        Retyping of President Trump Tweets

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                                          Horace
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                                          I think Twitter is more comfortable at this point with its clear moderation direction. Nothing much left standing in its way. It would have been kind of a big deal to ban POTUS before, not so much after the Capitol riots and after he is no longer POTUS elect. We all weigh our "moral stands" against the backlash we expect to get for them, though some of us are more aware of that than others.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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