Twitter permanently bans Trump
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@axtremus said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
I hope he builds his own platform.
Separate but equal, is that it?
Next, they won't let him eat at Woolworth's lunch counter.
Are Facebook and Twitter public accommodations?
They might be someday soon.
If they are, they would have to have even-handed application of the rules.
Rules that would be enforced by the Civil Rights Division of Mr. Biden's Justice Department.
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@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
If Trump were smart he’d be negotiating a financial stake in Gab or Parler in return for him to make it
the center of his culthis communications hub moving forward.72 million is a helluva cult.
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When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
I agree with this @jolly. You keep mentioning that the 70+ million people like they are all homogenus that all believe the same thing, listen to the thing, follow the "orders" from the same people, etc.
That is as bad as saying the 80+ MM who voted for President Biden are all the same.
There are some on the edges of each party who are extreme, but they are definitely in the minority.
That is one of the problems with news sources and the internet today. If you (general you, not anybody specifically) start following, for example, a far right news source, the internet starts steering you towards other far right news sources. After a while, you think that those sources represent the majority of thinking in the US because that is all you see.
(Another reason I like this forum board. Good variety of opinions and allows me to see different view points.
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@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.
You also live in the Beltway...
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.
You also live in the Beltway...
How the heck do you deal with any genuine belief that Trump actually won that election?
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@89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.
So you think people who voted for Trump are small.
Every single one that I know is big.
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@jolly said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@89th said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@jon-nyc said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
Nope. The cult is a small subset of his voters. I mean the True Believers. Not the ‘close your eyes and think of Gorsuch’ voters.
Exactly. I know plenty of folks who voted for Trump. Every single one does not buy into the fraud/stolen lie. Obviously a small sample size but I think represents most folks who voted for Trump.
You also live in the Beltway...
Yes but my point is the same, everyone who voted for Trump does not support the stolen election false narrative.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
LOL...
Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.
In what way are the two situations at all the same?
Please love yourself.
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@aqua-letifer said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
@george-k said in Twitter permanently bans Trump:
LOL...
Here’s a thought: someone who still has a Twitter account should simply tweet Obama’s words–“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun”–and see whether the tweet is banned as an incitement to violence.
In what way are the two situations at all the same?
Both involve losing your mind with hatred
Over a couple of harmless quotes taken out of context.
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A man set up a twitter account where he did nothing but retype in President Trumps tweets to see how twitter would react.
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Lazar, who since joined the Arizona Lincoln Project leadership team as a volunteer, encouraged @SuspendThePres’ over 54,000 followers to report rule-violating tweets. Over the course of the last eight months, Lazar previously told HuffPost, the account was flagged four times for posting what Twitter described as tweets “glorifying violence” and “posting misleading information about voting.” In each instance, the offending tweets were deleted by the platform and the account was temporarily locked.However, when they came from Trump’s account, those same tweets were allowed to stay online, some with disclaimers attached, due to Twitter policies that generally leave rule-violating content from world leaders up, since such statements are deemed within the public interest.
UNQUOTESo, just based on this, it cannot be said that President Trump was acted on unfairly by Twitter. If anything, he was treated more fairly.
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I think Twitter is more comfortable at this point with its clear moderation direction. Nothing much left standing in its way. It would have been kind of a big deal to ban POTUS before, not so much after the Capitol riots and after he is no longer POTUS elect. We all weigh our "moral stands" against the backlash we expect to get for them, though some of us are more aware of that than others.
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Germany and France oppose the ban:
Germany and France attacked Twitter Inc. and Facebook Inc. after U.S. President Donald Trump was shut off from the social media platforms, in an extension of Europe’s battle with big tech.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel objected to the decisions, saying on Monday that lawmakers should set the rules governing free speech and not private technology companies.
“The chancellor sees the complete closing down of the account of an elected president as problematic,” Steffen Seibert, her chief spokesman, said at a regular news conference in Berlin. Rights like the freedom of speech “can be interfered with, but by law and within the framework defined by the legislature -- not according to a corporate decision.”
The German leader’s stance is echoed by the French government. Junior Minister for European Union Affairs Clement Beaune said he was “shocked” to see a private company make such an important decision. “This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO,” he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. “There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms.” Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire earlier said that the state should be responsible for regulations, rather than “the digital oligarchy,” and called big tech “one of the threats” to democracy.
Europe is increasingly pushing back against the growing influence of big technology companies. The EU is currently in the process of setting up regulation that could give the bloc power to split up platforms if they don’t comply with rules.
