Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries
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Nothing to see here. We all know how excitable he is.
“Efforts to involve the US armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they warned. “Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”
Full letter here
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:58 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”
It was voters coming out of the grave that started this problem.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:00 last edited by
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Okay so Trump has a secret military coup being planned I suppose. LOL.
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Okay so Trump has a secret military coup being planned I suppose. LOL.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:10 last edited bySo we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
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So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:16 last edited by@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
What does it address?
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Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
The fact that they think this is necessary is per se high in information content.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:56 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.
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So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:03 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 May 2021, 18:03@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:05 last edited by Renauda 1 May 2021, 18:06"unknown unknown". Now that's good. That Rumsfeld,eh?
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:09 last edited by
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
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"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:33 last edited by Loki 1 May 2021, 18:34@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:33 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.
Just sayin'.
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@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:35 last edited by@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
There's no fucking way those guys drink cheap Scotch.
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@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.
Just sayin'.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 18:39 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
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@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 19:35 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
I got "Yes Prime Minister" in Oz on basic cable. Am familiar.
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@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 21:37 last edited by@renauda said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.
Thank God nobody has accused you!
