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  • HoraceH Horace

    I've never given any credence whatsoever to a military coup led by Trump. We all know it won't happen, but maybe Cheney just wants to put the minds of TDS sufferers at ease. Like placating children.

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    @horace said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

    I've never given any credence whatsoever to a military coup led by Trump. We all know it won't happen, but maybe Cheney just wants to put the minds of TDS sufferers at ease. Like placating children.

    He plays chess with more than 2 Ds also!!!

    Honestly I thought the story was going to be "what does it matter what a retired politician said to whom."

    Please love yourself.

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      Yeah, I remember when Dick Cheney was The Devil and/or Hitler. Good times, good times.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Nothing to see here. We all know how excitable he is.

        “Efforts to involve the US armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they warned. “Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”

        Full letter here

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        @jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

        the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”

        It was voters coming out of the grave that started this problem.

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        • L Loki

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          @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

          Okay so Trump has a secret military coup being planned I suppose. LOL.

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          • L Loki

            @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

            Okay so Trump has a secret military coup being planned I suppose. LOL.

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            So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

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            • L Loki

              So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

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              @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

              So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

              What does it address?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @loki

                Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.

                The fact that they think this is necessary is per se high in information content.

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                @jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                @loki

                Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.

                You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.

                Elbows up!

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                • L Loki

                  So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

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                  @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                  So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

                  Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                    So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

                    Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?

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                    @doctor-phibes

                    "unknown unknown". Now that's good. That Rumsfeld,eh?

                    Elbows up!

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                      "Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        "Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."

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                        @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                        "Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."

                        Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                          So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

                          Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?

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                          @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                          @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                          So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

                          Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?

                          People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.

                          Just sayin'.

                          Please love yourself.

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                            @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                            "Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."

                            Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.

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                            @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                            "Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."

                            Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.

                            There's no fucking way those guys drink cheap Scotch.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                              @loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                              So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.

                              Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?

                              People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.

                              Just sayin'.

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                              @aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                              People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.

                              It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.

                                It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.

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                                @doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                @aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.

                                It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.

                                I got "Yes Prime Minister" in Oz on basic cable. Am familiar. 😄

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                  @loki

                                  Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.

                                  You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.

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                                  @renauda said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:

                                  @loki

                                  Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.

                                  You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.

                                  Thank God nobody has accused you!😛😛😛

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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