Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries
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So you're willing to end the republic if it means keeping Trump in power.
Tell me again who the traitors are?
@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So you're willing to end the republic if it means keeping Trump in power.
Tell me again who the traitors are?
Again, you frame it completely backwards to reality. It has nothing at all to do with keeping Trump in office. It has to do with keeping the radical, enemy of the Constitution democrat party from setting up one party rule.
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What I think is that your view that it’s all nothingburgers unless a coup actually occurs is simply your way of coping for having voted for this.
@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
What I think is that your view that it’s all nothingburgers unless a coup actually occurs is simply your way of coping for having voted for this.
So put a percentage to it. What is the chance that a military coup will actually occur? "Not impossible" is not a valid answer.
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Wow.
And of all people, this coming from Dick Cheney.
I'm glad the American separation of power seems to still work well. Otherwise I would be really worried.
I'm usually not a fan of prosecuting former heads of state (always has a flavor of victor's justice), and I don't usually use the term "traitor", but if there's ever been a crystal-clear application of the term, this is it.
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I've never given any credence whatsoever to a military coup led by Trump. We all know it won't happen, but maybe Cheney just wants to put the minds of TDS sufferers at ease. Like placating children.
@horace said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
I've never given any credence whatsoever to a military coup led by Trump. We all know it won't happen, but maybe Cheney just wants to put the minds of TDS sufferers at ease. Like placating children.
He plays chess with more than 2 Ds also!!!
Honestly I thought the story was going to be "what does it matter what a retired politician said to whom."
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Nothing to see here. We all know how excitable he is.
“Efforts to involve the US armed forces in resolving election disputes would take us into dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional territory,” they warned. “Civilian and military officials who direct or carry out such measures would be accountable, including potentially facing criminal penalties, for the grave consequences of their actions on our republic.”
Full letter here
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Okay so Trump has a secret military coup being planned I suppose. LOL.
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
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So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
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Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
The fact that they think this is necessary is per se high in information content.
@jon-nyc said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
Donald Rumsfeld was Defense Secretary for the first time when you and I were in grade school, and again 2 decades later. Cheney was WH Chief of staff in the 70s, was a member of the house armed services committee for over a decade before becoming Sec Def himself, and then 8 years as a very hands on VP. These guys have pretty deep ties in the military establishment.
You have to be very, very careful around here with stating historical facts. You could be accused of coming across as sounding smart. You never know for sure but at least one poster may be thus triggered and take offence.
Elbows up!
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So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
I was only joking
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
"unknown unknown". Now that's good. That Rumsfeld,eh?
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"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
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"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
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@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.
Just sayin'.
Please love yourself.
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@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
"Something very bad is going to happen. We don't know what, we don't know when, and most of all we don't why. But we know it's coming."
Yeah what’s coming is a new Republican leadership that is separated from Trump. It’s the beginning of internecine war for the soul of the party and its levering the prevailing rhetoric to get attention. Every signatory would laugh if you asked them if they thought a coup was coming. Cheap scotch everywhere actually.
There's no fucking way those guys drink cheap Scotch.
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@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@loki said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
So we know now that a coup is not what the letter addresses but something else and I very seriously doubt it benefits democrats.
Is what it addresses an unknown unknown, by any chance?
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote. (We talked about that very procession quite a bit in my Wing Chun classes.) He was talking about the Dunning-Kruger effect before it had a name.
Just sayin'.
@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
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@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
@doctor-phibes said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
@aqua-letifer said in Dick Cheney organizes open letter from all 10 living former Defense Secretaries:
People make fun of that, and hey I like making fun of Rummy as much as the next guy, but there's nothing stupid about that quote.
It's not stupid, it's just funny. It's rather reminiscent of something that Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said. If you don't know he is, you are dead to me.
I got "Yes Prime Minister" in Oz on basic cable. Am familiar.
