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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:44 last edited by
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    I suspect the dark and light shaded areas are 50% and 95% confidence intervals?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      19 Apr 2020, 22:44

      I suspect the dark and light shaded areas are 50% and 95% confidence intervals?

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      George K
      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:48 last edited by
      #3

      @jon-nyc said in rt.live:

      I suspect the dark and light shaded areas are 50% and 95% confidence intervals?

      I'd guess it is.

      The fascinating charts are when you click on "Last week," "2 weeks ago" etc.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:53 last edited by jon-nyc
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        I need to compare these to the Tibco estimates and then understand the difference in calculations.

        Depressing that we had more states in the green last week than now.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • J jon-nyc
          19 Apr 2020, 22:53

          I need to compare these to the Tibco estimates and then understand the difference in calculations.

          Depressing that we had more states in the green last week than now.

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          George K
          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:59 last edited by George K
          #5

          @jon-nyc said in rt.live:

          Depressing that we had more states in the green last week than now.

          Yeah, I noticed that too.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:03 last edited by
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            Screen Shot 2020-04-19 at 7.01.26 PM.png

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:31 last edited by
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              @brenda you‘re in Minnesota. What do you think of the COVID-19 situation in Minnesota? Do you think the various state-imposed social distancing measures such as school closures, “non-essential” business closures, prohibition of large social gatherings, etc. are too much, just right, or not enough? Any of the state‘s COVID-19 policies you would like to change if you were made supreme leader of Minnesota?

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                Mik
                wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:33 last edited by Mik
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                R is on the rise in Ohio and they are demonstrating outside the state house to open it up. Foolish.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:41 last edited by
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                  It‘s concerning that many states have seen staedy decline of R0 for weeks, then their R0s rise again. You’d think that as more people become better aware of and better educated about COVID-19, that more people will observe social distancing and practice better hygiene and that should keep suppressing R0s.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:56 last edited by
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                    What is the goal?

                    How do you measure performance against it?

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                      20 Apr 2020, 01:56

                      What is the goal?

                      How do you measure performance against it?

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:01 last edited by
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                      @Copper said in rt.live:

                      What is the goal?

                      Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

                      How do you measure performance against it?

                      You measure R0.

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                        20 Apr 2020, 01:56

                        What is the goal?

                        How do you measure performance against it?

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                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:10 last edited by
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                        @Copper said in rt.live:

                        What is the goal?

                        It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          20 Apr 2020, 02:01

                          @Copper said in rt.live:

                          What is the goal?

                          Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

                          How do you measure performance against it?

                          You measure R0.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:11 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in rt.live:

                          @Copper said in rt.live:

                          What is the goal?

                          Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

                          How do you measure performance against it?

                          You measure R0.

                          That seems to be a goal that could take somewhat longer than flatten the curve.

                          Do you have any idea how long that might take? My guess is that it could takes years. I assume you would abandon the social separation and stay at home policies long before that.

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                            19 Apr 2020, 22:33

                            https://rt.live

                            "These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:18 last edited by
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                            Of course there is volatility around the estimates by state but it has consistently trended down to about 1 in the US as whole. So what is the issue?

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                              20 Apr 2020, 02:10

                              @Copper said in rt.live:

                              What is the goal?

                              It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:35 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in rt.live:

                              @Copper said in rt.live:

                              What is the goal?

                              It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

                              What do I think it is?

                              What do I want it to be?

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 03:39 last edited by Axtremus
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                                If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 values trending the wrong way. 😞

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                                  26 Apr 2020, 03:39

                                  If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 values trending the wrong way. 😞

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 10:59 last edited by
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                                  @Axtremus said in rt.live:

                                  If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 valies trending the wrong way. 😞

                                  I saw that yesterday. It seems like a sudden change, too. Things were looking much more favorable a day or two ago.. I wonder what happened

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 18:15 last edited by
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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 19:49 last edited by
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                                      I built a Lunar Lander Game like that, written in 6502 assembler on the Commodore 64.

                                      I uploaded it to the Q-Link game site. Q-Link aka Quantum Link. Steve Case became CEO of Quantum Link then it was renamed to AOL.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 19:55 last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #20

                                        He rang the bell at the top of the dot-com era, selling AOL to the idiots at TW who didn’t realize its best days we’re behind it.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 20:02 last edited by
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                                          Switching AOL from a proprietary network to the internet seems like such an obvious thing to do from our current time. I remember it as kind of a bold move back then.

                                          Of course it helped lead to the end of AOL dominance, still it let the company die a slower death.

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