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What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    Let's get that desperately needed $600 moving.

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      @jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

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      😂

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        I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

        BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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        • 89th8 89th

          I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

          BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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          What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

          I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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            What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

            I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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            #17

            @loki This article has a good breakdown:

            https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/details-stimulus-package-omnibus-bill-449499

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              @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

              https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

              ...

              Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

              Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

              The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

              Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                ...

                Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                • L Loki

                  I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                  @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                  I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                  The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                    https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                    Great visual.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                      Great visual.

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                      @89th Thanks for finding that.

                      What does "education" entail?

                      At least we get a submarine!

                      Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                        I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                        The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                        @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                        @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                        I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                        The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                          The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                          The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                          And what about all of the pork in the spending bill? It was a 2-parter...

                          The Brad

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                            Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

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                              @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                              Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                              I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

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                                @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                Ten Billion Dollars is a helluva lot for "Other" And an attack submarine?

                                The Brad

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                  What does "education" entail?

                                  At least we get a submarine!

                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                                  CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
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                                  #28

                                  @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                  What does "education" entail?

                                  Gender studies - $82B

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                                    @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                    What does "education" entail?

                                    Gender studies - $82B

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                                    @copper said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    Gender studies - $82B

                                    Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 1.37.47 PM.png

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      All this foreign spend the Pres is complaining about was in his budget request.

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                                        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-democrats-try-2000-dollar-direct-payments/

                                        “House Democrats will bring forward a bill to provide direct checks of $2,000 to individuals on Thursday, after President Trump called on Congress to amend a newly passed coronavirus relief bill to increase direct payments to $2,000, with $4,000 for a couple. Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House will try to pass the bill by unanimous consent — meaning that only one Republican member opposing the proposal needs to be present in order to block the bill.”

                                        Let’s see which House Republican will block this.
                                        🍿 🍿

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                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

                                          House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
                                          ...
                                          “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
                                          ...

                                          Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
                                          🍿 🍿

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