What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"
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I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.
BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:14 last edited byWhat percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?
I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.
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What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?
I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:34 last edited by@loki This article has a good breakdown:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/details-stimulus-package-omnibus-bill-449499
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:43 last edited by
@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V
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Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.
Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.
Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.
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@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V
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Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.
Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.
Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:50 last edited byI guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:52 last edited by
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.
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@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:45 last edited by@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.
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@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:46 last edited by@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL
The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.
And what about all of the pork in the spending bill? It was a 2-parter...
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:47 last edited by
Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...
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Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 17:16 last edited by@lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Omnibus bills need to be done away with.
I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.
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@lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Omnibus bills need to be done away with.
I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.
wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 18:12 last edited by@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Omnibus bills need to be done away with.
I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.
Ten Billion Dollars is a helluva lot for "Other" And an attack submarine?
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wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 18:42 last edited by Copper
@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@89th Thanks for finding that.
What does "education" entail?
Gender studies - $82B
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@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@89th Thanks for finding that.
What does "education" entail?
Gender studies - $82B
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All this foreign spend the Pres is complaining about was in his budget request.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 12:23 last edited by
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-democrats-try-2000-dollar-direct-payments/
“House Democrats will bring forward a bill to provide direct checks of $2,000 to individuals on Thursday, after President Trump called on Congress to amend a newly passed coronavirus relief bill to increase direct payments to $2,000, with $4,000 for a couple. Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House will try to pass the bill by unanimous consent — meaning that only one Republican member opposing the proposal needs to be present in order to block the bill.”
Let’s see which House Republican will block this.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 15:09 last edited by
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/
House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
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“Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
...Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 21:16 last edited by
@89th said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Great visual.
That’s awesome. Thanks.
1.4 billion for the border wall. I guess it’s safe to build now.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 22:38 last edited by
@89th said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Great visual.
Is it gone, or too small to read, or does this now appear:
"Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose." -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/
House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
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“Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
...Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
wrote on 24 Dec 2020, 22:46 last edited by@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/
House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
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“Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
...Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
No mystery here. He didn’t even use the word veto this time. I suppose he’s losing but just know he has no expectation of winning so if that’s a big loss to you enjoy it!
