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What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #9

    Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

    ...in Lebanon.

    Because borders matter.

    There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

    Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

    COVID relief, FTW!

    We probably do get the government we deserve.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      Doctor Phibes
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      #10

      I'm so sick of this shit.

      I was only joking

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      • George KG George K

        Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

        ...in Lebanon.

        Because borders matter.

        There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

        Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

        COVID relief, FTW!

        We probably do get the government we deserve.

        LarryL Offline
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        Larry
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

        Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

        ...in Lebanon.

        Because borders matter.

        There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

        Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

        COVID relief, FTW!

        We probably do get the government we deserve.

        That was the one that got to me. These sacks of shit go around yelling "no border wall! Walls don't work!" But the very same fools turn right around and give Lebanon half a billion of our tax dollars because they need a border wall.

        It's not just democrats. Both parties are being led by fools. Then you factor in the simple minded sheep like Ax who tries to blame it on Trump... we need to fire all of them and start over.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          #12

          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

          "WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks."

          Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check. Not sure if he's serious or just throwing a temper tantrum for show. He has not use the word "veto."

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            Let's get that desperately needed $600 moving.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              FEF80896-6294-4088-B376-58957FF73261.jpeg

              89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #14

              @jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

              FEF80896-6294-4088-B376-58957FF73261.jpeg

              😂

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                #15

                I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

                BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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                • 89th8 89th

                  I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

                  BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

                  I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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                  • L Loki

                    What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

                    I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

                    89th8 Offline
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                    89th
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                    #17

                    @loki This article has a good breakdown:

                    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/details-stimulus-package-omnibus-bill-449499

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                      ...

                      Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                      Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                      The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                      Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                        ...

                        Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                        Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                        The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                        Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                        Loki
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                        #19

                        I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                        • L Loki

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                          Axtremus
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                          @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                          The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                            #21

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                            Great visual.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                              Great visual.

                              George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              @89th Thanks for finding that.

                              What does "education" entail?

                              At least we get a submarine!

                              Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                                AxtremusA Offline
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                                Axtremus
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                                #23

                                @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                                LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply
                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                  The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  #24

                                  @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                  The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                                  And what about all of the pork in the spending bill? It was a 2-parter...

                                  The Brad

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #26

                                      @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                      I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                        I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                        I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                        Ten Billion Dollars is a helluva lot for "Other" And an attack submarine?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                          What does "education" entail?

                                          At least we get a submarine!

                                          Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                                          CopperC Offline
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                                          Copper
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                                          #28

                                          @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                          @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                          What does "education" entail?

                                          Gender studies - $82B

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