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What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 15:54 last edited by
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    And Donald Trump is in on it:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/22/trump-expected-sign-covid-19-relief-bill-live-politics-updates/4004965001/

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Dec 2020, 17:44 last edited by
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      FEF80896-6294-4088-B376-58957FF73261.jpeg

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        George K
        wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 01:08 last edited by
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        Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

        ...in Lebanon.

        Because borders matter.

        There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

        Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

        COVID relief, FTW!

        We probably do get the government we deserve.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 01:28 last edited by
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          I'm so sick of this shit.

          I was only joking

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            23 Dec 2020, 01:08

            Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

            ...in Lebanon.

            Because borders matter.

            There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

            Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

            COVID relief, FTW!

            We probably do get the government we deserve.

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            Larry
            wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 01:58 last edited by
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            @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

            Tucker is saying that there's $500 million for border security...

            ...in Lebanon.

            Because borders matter.

            There's allocation for the "Women's History Museum" at the Smithsonian.

            Oh, and getting women into the Pakistani army.

            COVID relief, FTW!

            We probably do get the government we deserve.

            That was the one that got to me. These sacks of shit go around yelling "no border wall! Walls don't work!" But the very same fools turn right around and give Lebanon half a billion of our tax dollars because they need a border wall.

            It's not just democrats. Both parties are being led by fools. Then you factor in the simple minded sheep like Ax who tries to blame it on Trump... we need to fire all of them and start over.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 12:17 last edited by
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              https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

              "WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks."

              Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check. Not sure if he's serious or just throwing a temper tantrum for show. He has not use the word "veto."

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                Copper
                wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 12:54 last edited by
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                Let's get that desperately needed $600 moving.

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                  22 Dec 2020, 17:44

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                  89th
                  wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 13:48 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                  FEF80896-6294-4088-B376-58957FF73261.jpeg

                  😂

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                    89th
                    wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 13:56 last edited by
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                    I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

                    BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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                    • 8 89th
                      23 Dec 2020, 13:56

                      I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

                      BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:14 last edited by
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                      What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

                      I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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                      • L Loki
                        23 Dec 2020, 14:14

                        What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

                        I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:34 last edited by
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                        @loki This article has a good breakdown:

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/details-stimulus-package-omnibus-bill-449499

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:43 last edited by
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                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                          ...

                          Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                          Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                          The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                          Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                            23 Dec 2020, 14:43

                            @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                            ...

                            Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                            Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                            The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                            Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:50 last edited by
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                            I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                              23 Dec 2020, 14:50

                              I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 14:52 last edited by
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                              @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                              I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                              The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 15:38 last edited by
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                                https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                                Great visual.

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                                  23 Dec 2020, 15:38

                                  https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                                  Great visual.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:40 last edited by
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                                  @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                  What does "education" entail?

                                  At least we get a submarine!

                                  Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    23 Dec 2020, 14:52

                                    @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                    The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:45 last edited by
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                                    @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                    The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                                      23 Dec 2020, 16:45

                                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                      The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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                                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                                      The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                                      And what about all of the pork in the spending bill? It was a 2-parter...

                                      The Brad

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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:47 last edited by
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                                        Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

                                        The Brad

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                                        • L LuFins Dad
                                          23 Dec 2020, 16:47

                                          Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 17:16 last edited by
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                                          @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                          Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                          I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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