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Thoughts on hybrids?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:00 last edited by
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    Friends with each have been happy with them.

    I’d probably make the choice over interior features and comfort.

    Wife has a hybrid they’re fine.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • X xenon
      20 Dec 2020, 17:48

      I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.

      The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.

      The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.

      In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.

      I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?

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      Loki
      wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:05 last edited by
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      If it’s about money it’s still not worth it.

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        Mik
        wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:19 last edited by
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        I drove an Odyssey for 14 years with nothing but maintenance. Nothing. I still regret having sold it. Highly recommend.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Axtremus
          wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:37 last edited by
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          Got an Odyssey myself. The Sienna was also on my final short list over a decade ago when I chose the Odyssey. I have been happy with the Odyssey, but I also have nothing against the Sienna. You’ll be fine with either one. Good luck.

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            89th
            wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:41 last edited by
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            I plan on getting an Odyssey in the next year or two.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by
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              As for the hybrid vs. non-hybrid question, factor in one out-of warranty hybrid battery replacement if you’re thkinkng “long haul.” Life expectancy of the hybrid battery is somewhere between 5 and 7 years.

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                xenon
                wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:36 last edited by
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                Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

                Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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                • X xenon
                  21 Dec 2020, 00:36

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                  Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

                  Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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                  @xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                  Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
                  Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

                  What changed your mind?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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                    You could not go wrong with those candidates.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • M Mik
                      21 Dec 2020, 00:41

                      You could not go wrong with those candidates.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:46 last edited by xenon
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                      @george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                      @xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                      Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
                      Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

                      What changed your mind?

                      It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.

                      The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:48 last edited by
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                        Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

                        Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

                        Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

                        I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

                        (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

                        I was only joking

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                          21 Dec 2020, 00:48

                          Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

                          Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

                          Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

                          I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

                          (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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                          George K
                          wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:52 last edited by
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                          @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                          recovering

                          As if...

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
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                            A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                              A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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                              brenda
                              wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
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                              @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                              A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                              Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                21 Dec 2020, 00:48

                                Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

                                Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

                                Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

                                I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

                                (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:58 last edited by
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                                @doctor-phibes hahahahah

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                                • B brenda
                                  21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                                  @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                  A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                                  Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:59 last edited by
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                                  @brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                  @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                  A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                                  Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

                                  Isn’t that the truth. 😆

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • X xenon
                                    21 Dec 2020, 00:36

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                                    Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

                                    Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:14 last edited by
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                                    @xenon 👍

                                    The Brad

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                                    • M Mik
                                      21 Dec 2020, 00:56

                                      A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:36 last edited by
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                                      @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                      A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                                      Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:40 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                        I have avoided and will continue to avoid the minivan.

                                        I rode in a Sienna almost every weekend for 3 years and it seemed like a fine car. My buddy had one and we had boys the same age and would take them out Saturdays

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Klaus
                                          wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 10:41 last edited by Klaus
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                                          Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).

                                          Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.

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