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Thoughts on hybrids?

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  • MikM Mik

    You could not go wrong with those candidates.

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    xenon
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    @george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

    @xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

    Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
    Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

    What changed your mind?

    It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.

    The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.

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      Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

      Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

      Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

      I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

      (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

        Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

        Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

        I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

        (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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        George K
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        @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

        recovering

        As if...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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            @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

            A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

            Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.

              Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.

              Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.

              I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.

              (Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)

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              @doctor-phibes hahahahah

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                @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

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                @brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.

                Isn’t that the truth. 😆

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota 🙂

                  Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.

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                  @xenon 👍

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                  • MikM Mik

                    A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

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                    @mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                    A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.

                    Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.

                    I was only joking

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                      I have avoided and will continue to avoid the minivan.

                      I rode in a Sienna almost every weekend for 3 years and it seemed like a fine car. My buddy had one and we had boys the same age and would take them out Saturdays

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).

                        Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.

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                          Thanks a lot, Xenon. Now I'm getting Toyota Sienna ads...

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).

                            Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.

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                            @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                            I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                            My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                            I was only joking

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                              @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                              I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                              My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

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                              @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                              @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                              I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                              My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                              You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                Form follows function. I loved my Odyssey.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  I've owned three minivans. They were all functional for the reasons one buys a minivan - hauling 4 kids around, trips to the Cheddarshack. All were Chrysler products (Two Dodge's and a Chrysler). At the time of our first one, there was only the Dodge Caravan. At the time of the second, we wanted the extra room in back, so it was the Chrysler Town & Country. If I recall, no other van had that room in the back at the time (1992).

                                  Our third was a Dodge Grand Caravan (1997). At the time, it was the only one with AWD, which we needed to climb the hill at the Cheddarshack. I tried it in my Honda Prelude with about an inch of snow on the ground - it was a miserable failure.

                                  All that said, I never "enjoyed" any of them. They did the job, they were comfortable enough, and, being Chrysler products, had their share of issues. I was glad to be rid of them.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                    My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                    You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    @klaus said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                    I don't understand the problem many people have with them,

                                    My main problem when I owned one was all the shit I took from people about it. I'm finally getting to unload it.

                                    You still have a minivan? You fucking wuss.

                                    No I don't, in fact I don't have a bloody car at all. I'm permitted to drive the wife's car. Mine crapped out in the fall, and there doesn't seem much point in buying another one just so it can sit on the driveway.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      The Chevy Astro was the best car ever.

                                      I had 2, and drove each for over 14 years.

                                      They are no longer made or I would own my third.

                                      The visibility was the best, and you could remove the seats and carry a ton of stuff.

                                      ![alt text](15a6fe14-9059-4e88-a4d5-0c81dc3c37fe-image.png image url)

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                                      • CopperC Copper

                                        The Chevy Astro was the best car ever.

                                        I had 2, and drove each for over 14 years.

                                        They are no longer made or I would own my third.

                                        The visibility was the best, and you could remove the seats and carry a ton of stuff.

                                        ![alt text](15a6fe14-9059-4e88-a4d5-0c81dc3c37fe-image.png image url)

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                                        @copper said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                        ou could remove the seats and carry a ton of stuff.

                                        I hauled a lot of expensive lumber in our minivans.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          The Chevy Astro was the best car ever.

                                          I had 2, and drove each for over 14 years.

                                          They are no longer made or I would own my third.

                                          The visibility was the best, and you could remove the seats and carry a ton of stuff.

                                          ![alt text](15a6fe14-9059-4e88-a4d5-0c81dc3c37fe-image.png image url)

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                                          @copper said in Thoughts on hybrids?:

                                          The Chevy Astro was the best car ever.

                                          I had 2, and drove each for over 14 years.

                                          They are no longer made or I would own my third.

                                          The visibility was the best, and you could remove the seats and carry a ton of stuff.

                                          ![alt text](15a6fe14-9059-4e88-a4d5-0c81dc3c37fe-image.png image url)

                                          I learned to drive in its counterpart - GMC Safari.

                                          My uncle had one too - he would take the middle seat out, throw a foam mattress in and take us for road trips.

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