Thoughts on hybrids?
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I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.
The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.
In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.
I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?
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Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.
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@george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.What changed your mind?
It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.
The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
I was only joking
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
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A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
@doctor-phibes hahahahah
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@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
@brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
Isn’t that the truth.
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@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.
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Minivans rock. I don't understand the problem many people have with them, who'll then go on to buy an SUV, which is basically the same thing except that it sits 10 inches highe, costs $10K more, and has worse mileage (says the owner of a SUV).
Obviously there are nicer looking cars, but if one has a large family and/or a lot of stuff to haul, this is usually not on the top spot of the priority list.
