Thoughts on hybrids?
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 17:48 last edited by xenon
I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.
The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.
In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.
I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:00 last edited by
Friends with each have been happy with them.
I’d probably make the choice over interior features and comfort.
Wife has a hybrid they’re fine.
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I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.
The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.
In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.
I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?
wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:05 last edited byIf it’s about money it’s still not worth it.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:19 last edited by
I drove an Odyssey for 14 years with nothing but maintenance. Nothing. I still regret having sold it. Highly recommend.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:37 last edited by
Got an Odyssey myself. The Sienna was also on my final short list over a decade ago when I chose the Odyssey. I have been happy with the Odyssey, but I also have nothing against the Sienna. You’ll be fine with either one. Good luck.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:41 last edited by
I plan on getting an Odyssey in the next year or two.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by
As for the hybrid vs. non-hybrid question, factor in one out-of warranty hybrid battery replacement if you’re thkinkng “long haul.” Life expectancy of the hybrid battery is somewhere between 5 and 7 years.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:36 last edited by
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
@xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.What changed your mind?
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
You could not go wrong with those candidates.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:46 last edited by xenon
@george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.What changed your mind?
It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.
The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:48 last edited by
Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes hahahahah
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@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:59 last edited by@brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
Isn’t that the truth.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:14 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:36 last edited by
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:40 last edited by jon-nyc
I have avoided and will continue to avoid the minivan.
I rode in a Sienna almost every weekend for 3 years and it seemed like a fine car. My buddy had one and we had boys the same age and would take them out Saturdays
