Thoughts on hybrids?
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 17:48 last edited by xenon
I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.
The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.
In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.
I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:00 last edited by
Friends with each have been happy with them.
I’d probably make the choice over interior features and comfort.
Wife has a hybrid they’re fine.
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I’ve been thinking minivan for a while.
The time has finally come to pull the trigger - it’s down to the Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey.
The Odyssey is a regular V6, the new Sienna is hybrid-only now. The Odyssey is 280hp and the Sienna 245 (net of the electric motors and 4-banger gas engine). EPA mpg estimate of 22, 36 respectively.
In terms of driving - both are good off the line (electric motor torque), but Sienna will struggle on fast passing and uphill highways (on a relative basis). From what I hear, the new Sienna platform handles better though.
I’m thinking about this one for the long haul. Any thoughts?
wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:05 last edited byIf it’s about money it’s still not worth it.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:19 last edited by
I drove an Odyssey for 14 years with nothing but maintenance. Nothing. I still regret having sold it. Highly recommend.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:37 last edited by
Got an Odyssey myself. The Sienna was also on my final short list over a decade ago when I chose the Odyssey. I have been happy with the Odyssey, but I also have nothing against the Sienna. You’ll be fine with either one. Good luck.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:41 last edited by
I plan on getting an Odyssey in the next year or two.
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wrote on 20 Dec 2020, 18:55 last edited by
As for the hybrid vs. non-hybrid question, factor in one out-of warranty hybrid battery replacement if you’re thkinkng “long haul.” Life expectancy of the hybrid battery is somewhere between 5 and 7 years.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:36 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
@xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.What changed your mind?
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:41 last edited by
You could not go wrong with those candidates.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:46 last edited by xenon
@george-k said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@xenon said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
Test drove both today. Went with the Toyota
Was heavily leaning Odyssey before the drives.What changed your mind?
It drove like a car (in a good way). I thought the Honda would be a lot better in term of pickup, but the hybrid system has a nice response from stop (the Odyssey can dig much deeper though). And the inner and outer fit/finish just felt much much more modern.
The 50% better fuel mileage was a bonus. Ended up paying $5k more than a similarly specced Odyssey though.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:48 last edited by
Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:56 last edited by
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
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Taking ownership of ones first mini-van is part of the hell that announces the fact that you're approaching middle age.
Whilst, like erectile disfunction, it may be unavoidable, I see no reason to celebrate it, or even to tell anybody else about it.
Dressing the discussion up as being about 'buying a hybrid' is just a distraction from the dreadful truth.
I apologize for my bluntness, but somebody needed to say it.
(Doctor Phibes - recovering former Sienna owner)
wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:58 last edited by@doctor-phibes hahahahah
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@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 00:59 last edited by@brenda said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Exactly. She will have a far more detailed definition to provide.
Isn’t that the truth.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:14 last edited by
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:36 last edited by
@mik said in Thoughts on hybrids?:
A real man is not defined by what car he drives. His wife will tell him that.
Right after she tells him to go buy "us" a loser-cruiser.
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wrote on 21 Dec 2020, 03:40 last edited by jon-nyc
I have avoided and will continue to avoid the minivan.
I rode in a Sienna almost every weekend for 3 years and it seemed like a fine car. My buddy had one and we had boys the same age and would take them out Saturdays